Aph 173 regarding URI 30C - was definition [was: New media attacks on homeopathy...
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:57 pm
....which as I explained does fit APh 173 which was your argument area.
It is not an unproven combination.
It is proven at zero potency and at 30C potency.
In homeopathic remedy form it is currently used (and very effective)
only in 30C potency, so there is no urgent need for further provings,
especially given the clinical results.
You are the only person who claims that was what was done. Kindly
state your sources.,
I described a far different scenario and detailed symptoms, and did
not say anything about "flu-like symptoms" .
The substance has been sufficiently proved for use as an acute remedy
for cat flu with matching symptoms AND for prevention of cat flu of
same or similar symptoms - AND for reversing symptoms from
vaccination with this or similar cat flu vaccines - all using the 30C
remedy - all uses of which have also been confirmed successful
clinically in vast statistically significant numbers for at least 50
years - well before my time.
Ask the original users if they proved it as well. They probably did.
I saw it save many lives sure to be dead without it, before I used it.
Can we go back to APh 1 and 2 about actually getting a CURE - gently
etc.

All known well before the use of the remedy by me, yes. It's an OLD
remedy.
Did you remember this has been in curative use (for lifelong cure) by
hundreds of homeopaths for 50 yrs? Or does that mean nothing to you
The symptoms produced by its use in zero potency and 30C potency have
also been known that long - long before I became a homeopath
I
learned from some of the masters in veterinary homeopathy - of
necessity as there is to this day no textbook on veterinary
homeopathy that holds water. There have been a few attempts, but
nothing thorough. So the experience of classical veterinary
homeopaths before me has been invaluable to save lives.
(My ideal is to save lives, and usually that is by Law of Similars in
some way.)
Also know that long regarding URI 30C, are the symptoms that occur
when cats are vaccinated with the junk, both immediate and long-term
symptoms - including what I consider an acute miasm induced by it if
it is not handled quickly (with URI 30C) and if the damage is not
reversed before it goes deep. If it goes deep and induces the miasm,
then in my experience with this miasm so far (12 yrs) it takes
about 2 and a half years to reverse it using homeopathy - OR else it
will be inherited in the following generations leaving the offspring
cats susceptible to the miasm even without further vaccination. In
this area - the proving symptoms from actual vaccinations have been
key symptoms to the use of URi 30C as a Miasm remedy.
However this is my experimenal work using URI 30C as a miasm
remedy - with willing clients knowing it is a new area. To date it
has been very successful.
I mention it here because you bring up the wide range of symptoms
that occur in a proving and it is those which I used to both identify
and to then treat the miasm that I perceived in vaccinated cats and
in offspring of vaccinated cats, even many generations later. The
fact that it was successful, and that further generations after its
use LACKED the propensity to cat flu that is caused by the vaccine -
is to me further proof that URI 30C is a really good remedy to have
at our disposal in veterinary homeopathy. This is all based on
symptoms seen from the vaccine - used by injection and used by nasal
spray and used by spray in the eyes, and used by oral injestion, and
used by 30C aqueous use and 30C tablet use - all of which had been
done and seen by me before I used it as a miasm remedy.
The argument here about how well proved the remedy is - by people who
know nothing about cat flu, or the remedy or its use - is in my
opinion exhausted and wasting time that could better be spent
discussing the good things learned from its use - and which are being
used as well - to remove the vaccination miasm that occurs for
example. I would find that - if used in positive light - a far more
interesting discussion that the constant backbiting and ridicule
considered civil professionalism by some on this list.
You had my name there by mistake, I put yours there as these are your
words to own.
I explained in full how BOTH plants and URI 30C do meet Hahnemann's
Aph 173 (the one you asked about) to use a single item to make a
single remedy and not things that are a mixture against DIFFERENT
diseases. It may be that a relatively high level of chemistry
education is needed to interpret this well in modern situations, but
I think the proviso Hahnemann had regarding mixtures applying to
*different* diseases is sufficient. URI 30C components are against
one disease syndrome not many different ones. That is sufficient.
If you prefer to have your own interpretation that's fine - but do
not misrepresent mine and label me bizzare, it's so unprofessional. I
like my ideas even if you do not, and I'll own my ideas quite readily
thank you.
These were not ignored.
Your original request was about APh 173 only, and which I answered
fully.
I'll respond to the new Aphs 118 and 273 with footnote requests;
however it brings up a new and interesting discussion - so it is
suitable for a separate email and topic.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
It is not an unproven combination.
It is proven at zero potency and at 30C potency.
In homeopathic remedy form it is currently used (and very effective)
only in 30C potency, so there is no urgent need for further provings,
especially given the clinical results.
You are the only person who claims that was what was done. Kindly
state your sources.,
I described a far different scenario and detailed symptoms, and did
not say anything about "flu-like symptoms" .
The substance has been sufficiently proved for use as an acute remedy
for cat flu with matching symptoms AND for prevention of cat flu of
same or similar symptoms - AND for reversing symptoms from
vaccination with this or similar cat flu vaccines - all using the 30C
remedy - all uses of which have also been confirmed successful
clinically in vast statistically significant numbers for at least 50
years - well before my time.
Ask the original users if they proved it as well. They probably did.
I saw it save many lives sure to be dead without it, before I used it.
Can we go back to APh 1 and 2 about actually getting a CURE - gently
etc.
All known well before the use of the remedy by me, yes. It's an OLD
remedy.
Did you remember this has been in curative use (for lifelong cure) by
hundreds of homeopaths for 50 yrs? Or does that mean nothing to you
The symptoms produced by its use in zero potency and 30C potency have
also been known that long - long before I became a homeopath
learned from some of the masters in veterinary homeopathy - of
necessity as there is to this day no textbook on veterinary
homeopathy that holds water. There have been a few attempts, but
nothing thorough. So the experience of classical veterinary
homeopaths before me has been invaluable to save lives.
(My ideal is to save lives, and usually that is by Law of Similars in
some way.)
Also know that long regarding URI 30C, are the symptoms that occur
when cats are vaccinated with the junk, both immediate and long-term
symptoms - including what I consider an acute miasm induced by it if
it is not handled quickly (with URI 30C) and if the damage is not
reversed before it goes deep. If it goes deep and induces the miasm,
then in my experience with this miasm so far (12 yrs) it takes
about 2 and a half years to reverse it using homeopathy - OR else it
will be inherited in the following generations leaving the offspring
cats susceptible to the miasm even without further vaccination. In
this area - the proving symptoms from actual vaccinations have been
key symptoms to the use of URi 30C as a Miasm remedy.
However this is my experimenal work using URI 30C as a miasm
remedy - with willing clients knowing it is a new area. To date it
has been very successful.
I mention it here because you bring up the wide range of symptoms
that occur in a proving and it is those which I used to both identify
and to then treat the miasm that I perceived in vaccinated cats and
in offspring of vaccinated cats, even many generations later. The
fact that it was successful, and that further generations after its
use LACKED the propensity to cat flu that is caused by the vaccine -
is to me further proof that URI 30C is a really good remedy to have
at our disposal in veterinary homeopathy. This is all based on
symptoms seen from the vaccine - used by injection and used by nasal
spray and used by spray in the eyes, and used by oral injestion, and
used by 30C aqueous use and 30C tablet use - all of which had been
done and seen by me before I used it as a miasm remedy.
The argument here about how well proved the remedy is - by people who
know nothing about cat flu, or the remedy or its use - is in my
opinion exhausted and wasting time that could better be spent
discussing the good things learned from its use - and which are being
used as well - to remove the vaccination miasm that occurs for
example. I would find that - if used in positive light - a far more
interesting discussion that the constant backbiting and ridicule
considered civil professionalism by some on this list.
You had my name there by mistake, I put yours there as these are your
words to own.
I explained in full how BOTH plants and URI 30C do meet Hahnemann's
Aph 173 (the one you asked about) to use a single item to make a
single remedy and not things that are a mixture against DIFFERENT
diseases. It may be that a relatively high level of chemistry
education is needed to interpret this well in modern situations, but
I think the proviso Hahnemann had regarding mixtures applying to
*different* diseases is sufficient. URI 30C components are against
one disease syndrome not many different ones. That is sufficient.
If you prefer to have your own interpretation that's fine - but do
not misrepresent mine and label me bizzare, it's so unprofessional. I
like my ideas even if you do not, and I'll own my ideas quite readily
thank you.
These were not ignored.
Your original request was about APh 173 only, and which I answered
fully.
I'll respond to the new Aphs 118 and 273 with footnote requests;
however it brings up a new and interesting discussion - so it is
suitable for a separate email and topic.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."