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Sunburn question

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:32 pm
by gailz059
Hello,

I have questions about sunburn issues. The sunburn was very red and now the worst area around the shoulders has blisters which are painful. The blisters emerged about 48 hours after the burn and they are still here two days later. I initially used cantharis but I did not see the burn until hours after the burn had fully emerged so it got applied later that it should have been applied and it provided very little pain relief. I moved to causticum (ill effects of burns) and I may move to urtica later because of a stinging sensation where the blisters are located). I have used calendula tincture on the blistered area so as well.

When I used the cantharis I gave an olfactory dose of the remedy, meaning I took five drops and put them into four ounces of water and sniffed the remedy. I then took the liquid and applied it directly to the skin. I think that Kunzli says that you can take a remedy on the skin as well as orally.

Several references indicate that hypericum is something to apply for pain after a burn because it helps the nerves recover. Since I don't have hypericum tincture I wonder whether I can do the same thing I did with the cantharis. After taking the remedy in oral or olfactory dose, can I just take my four ounces (containing the drops) and apply it to the skin? Would this be as beneficial as using the diluted mother tincture? Although the pellet dissolved in water could be considered to be a tincture it differs from the mother tincture which is not potentized so would it be beneficial to do this? Right now the blistered area is warm to touch and is still painful. Can I mix the calendula tincture and the "potentized tincture" in order to get an approximation of hypercal?

Some sources advice against using any type of cream or oil yet other sources recommend vitamin E oil. Is anything in oil a bad idea in general, or does it depend on where you are in the repair cycle?

Thanks,

Gail

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:05 pm
by Tanya Marquette
i have always avoided oil based skin applications on things
like burns. I feel they hold the heat in and make matters worse.
That is certainly true for me. Aloe vera gel is a good topical
for sunburns and is very soothing. Then I would use the remedies
internally. If the burn is that bad, then you might want to up
the potency. A couple of years ago a very strong chemical stripper
got under my work gloves and before I knew it there was a nasty
caustic burn: the skin became necrotic and went very deep. I used
causticum either 30c or 200c internally and healed very quickly with
a relatively small scar considering the size of the necrosis.
tanya

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:09 am
by Irene de Villiers
Urtica urens low potency may often be very effective as first aid.
If the burn is not too severe, I make lotion using 1/2 teaspoon Urt
urens tincture in a cup of water and use liberally.
Also 3C may be suitable if more severe burns............... apply
same way.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:24 am
by Gail
Hi Gail,

A burn was the first time I realised that remedies could anitdote each
other. Can't remember the details but For some reason I'd taken either
Ferrum Phos or Ars Alb for a burn, a while later, maybe a day or so
later I took a dose of of the other one for something else and the burn
pain came back - I was new to homoeopathy and didn't realise the
connection and for some reason I repeated the process, it was on the
second time that the burn pain came back after the second remedy that I
checked the antidoting lists and found that Ferrum Phos and Ars Alb do
antidote each other.

Sorry a bit of a sideways shift from what to do immediately, except that
you could also look at Ferrum and Ars to see if they fit.

Gail A.
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now the worst area around the shoulders has blisters which are painful.
The blisters emerged about 48 hours after the burn and they are still
here two days later. I initially used cantharis but I did not see the
burn until hours after the burn had fully emerged so it got applied
later that it should have been applied and it provided very little pain
relief. I moved to causticum (ill effects of burns) and I may move to
urtica later because of a stinging sensation where the blisters are
located). I have used calendula tincture on the blistered area so as
well.
meaning I took five drops and put them into four ounces of water and
sniffed the remedy. I then took the liquid and applied it directly to
the skin. I think that Kunzli says that you can take a remedy on the
skin as well as orally.
pain after a burn because it helps the nerves recover. Since I don't
have hypericum tincture I wonder whether I can do the same thing I did
with the cantharis. After taking the remedy in oral or olfactory dose,
can I just take my four ounces (containing the drops) and apply it to
the skin? Would this be as beneficial as using the diluted mother
tincture? Although the pellet dissolved in water could be considered to
be a tincture it differs from the mother tincture which is not
potentized so would it be beneficial to do this? Right now the blistered
area is warm to touch and is still painful. Can I mix the calendula
tincture and the "potentized tincture" in order to get an approximation
of hypercal?
sources recommend vitamin E oil. Is anything in oil a bad idea in
general, or does it depend on where you are in the repair cycle?

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:41 am
by Roger Barr
Whenever I have taken remedies for sunburn sucessfully the pain relief has
been immediate.
I would have to find the quotes in the organon or elsewhere but topical
application is not advised, and not necessary for potencies. Remedies are working on the
vital force throughout the body, which in turn is healing the physical body.
If you want to apply something topically use Vit-E, maybe Aloe.
Large doses of Vit-C (internally) is a good pain killer and neutralizes the free radicals.
Checkout my experiment with sunburn:
http://www.canhealyourself.com/Myth_Sun ... Cancer.htm

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:40 am
by Irene de Villiers
On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:41 PM,
wrote:
By whom in what situation please?

With sunburn - or any surface burn, it makes a lot of sense to use a
topical application as the problem is on the surface.
It's true a remedy will penetrate if taken internally - but we are
dealing with energy here, not chemicals that need to be digested or
go into the blood stream. Topical application in the appropriate
place, will do just fine if that it the only part of the body of
concern. For mental aspects I'd want oral remedy in addition (not
instead) of topical remedy.

An aqueous liquid topically for a burn is both effective and nutrient
- in that burns are dehydrating and applying liquid (such as "lotion"
of remedy in water) hydrates the skin directly, as well as applying
medicine.
It also goes to work locally very fast.

I've seen so many cases where the topicla plus mouth remedy togetgehr
have done the work better and faster than moth alone.
My introduction to homeopathy was one of those - I had gangrene from
knee to thigh - wide open mess of a leg - and crushed Calenduloa 200C
powder was sprinkled into the wound and taken by mouth. Magic.
Likewise the breast cancer. Topical cream with the simillimum at 10X
plus by mouth at 200C - all gone in under a month.
Likewise Urtica urens for bad boiling water burns for a friend with
epilepsy who dumped an entire kettle of boiling water she made for
tea, on her lap as she collapsed in a seizure, just as she was about
to pour the water.
Likewise calendula on surgery cuts and they heal with no scar or
infection very fast. Same with abscesses - along with oral for
internal haling as well.
Same in feline cat flu. An eyedrop of simillimum in water in addition
to mouth doses just heals it MUCH faster.
Likewise diabetic ulcers - they respond best if there is topical
application.

Maybe we need nerves to get remedy from mouth to location and these
are not in good shape in some cases, such as the above ones?
Or maybe we need energy meridians and they are not in good shape?
Whatever the reason - I do know that topical application works better
in all the above examples.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:50 am
by Joy Lucas
You can dose through the skin quite successfully as long as it is the simillimum it will cure, if it isn't then it won't. Same with olfactory dosing. You don't give any modalities but you mention stinging as the main sensation - so I would suggest you also consider Apis.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:55 am
by Theresa Partington
Dear Gail
My son had serious burns couple of years ago. He was treated locally and his friends went to the specialist burns hospital. His initial dressings were left on in situ for a week, I think, and then replaced with some ointmenty non-stick, non-medicated dressings. There seemed to be some disagreement about all this between the two treatment centres so I think they keep changing their minds. I used neem oil on the blistered bits and lesser burns. The deeper ones were dressed before I saw him. I gave him cantharis to start with , later custicum, I think, and then calendula internally. When the dressings were replaced with lighter ones I just left the surface area of what had been the bad burns.He healed amazingly well and scar-free. Right at the end he had signs of a small infection which he was given antibiotics for. I didn't really think he needed them but I doubt they did much harm.
He had arnica of course at the outset. He had a lot of water to drink and plenty of protein to compensate for dehydration and help him build new skin.
Dr Shepherd used to use urtica urens tincture on burns, soaking the bandages and telling the patient to keep them damp with more tincture as necessarily. She actually would do one leg urtica and one picric acid to see which was best, one patient with one and one with the other, until the patients with the pic acid dressings rebelled at the extra pain and time they were suffering.
Theresa

Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:20 am
by Joy Lucas
I think you must be referring to the nasty topical allopathic applications around then (and now) which should not be given as suppression takes place and as crude substances can do more harm than good.

Sometimes giving a homeopathic rx through the skin is the only choice and even olfaction is essentially taking in through the skin. Perfectly acceptable if needs must.

Joy

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Re: Sunburn question

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:21 am
by Joy Lucas
There are of course many remedies that cover cases of burns, always needing to individualise each case, and when there is a nbws since a burn or for the after effects of any burn then remember the remedy Sol itself (when the sx fit).

Joy

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