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Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:26 am
by Jean Doherty
Perhaps this flu should be embraced as it is generally mild and
provides the opportunity for immunity to develop which may protect us
in the future against more virulent strains. It seems to be
spreading rapidly here and so many people are being put in quarantine
and antivirals.
I wonder if this is a sensible thought, Jean

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:53 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi Jean,
Yes, That's how I am understanding this flu. But having the right
remedy only aids in building up immunity. So either way is fine.
Blessings,
Ellen

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:07 pm
by Shannon Nelson
My understanding is that one case of flu doesn't confer *much* immunity
to another--tho I guess can confer some.

Given that it's been described (over and over) as a "mild" one, I too
wonder why on earth we've been closing schools and panicking over it!
I've heard speculation that it may be back in a stronger fashion in the
fall; someplace (TV news?) somebody said that was what happened with
the 1918 flu (anyone know?).

The 1918 flu, tho, was qualitatively VERY different, as it was a
*severe* one; maybe the person just meant that it might be back with a
larger number of cases? (As with "any seasonal flu", which is what I
keep hearing this one compared with. So why the panic!!!!? Oh yeah,
because panic pays. :-) )

FWIW, I've been reading over and over about connection between flu and
Vitamin D. I mean no one *wants* even a "mild seasonal flu." :-)

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:01 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Jean,
I think it is very reasonable - but...

I wrote this idea in a thread on swine flu on a non-homeopathic forum
in Germany and almost got my ears torn off for this idea;-)

Regards

Luise

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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:28 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Shannon,

It was that way with the sSpanish Flu.

At first there was wave of rather mild flu - 6 months or so later it
recurred with the well-known severity.

There are hints that the people whoo had the "first" flu did not get
it the second time around, or it was much milder for them.

I said "hints" - I do not know how strong the evidence is. I just read
about it when I was doing some research on the Span. Flu in the net.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:07 pm
by Shannon Nelson
LOL! How far back, and what did they say? (Was this toward the
beginning, when no one was really sure how it was going to shape up, or
was it recently? And if the latter, has the German reporting also been
noting--albeit only occasionally and briefly, and never given any
discussion--that this seems equivalent to a "normal seasonal flu"?)

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:11 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks, that's good to be aware of.
How odd that it should have been more severe the *second* time
around--has anyone any idea why?

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:13 pm
by Rosemary Hyde
Actually, apparently there is some immunity conferred by different types of flu – e.g., almost all the deaths so far in this swine flu epidemic have occurred among people too young to have been alive during the previous swine flu epidemic – which means that the immune systems of people who experience a flu epidemic have all been exposed, whether or not they developed symptoms. The fatality potential of an epidemic is raised by the lack of previous exposure to that disease variant in the general population. This situation is similar, for instance, to that shown by the fatality rate of measles and smallpox among Native Americans when they were first exposed by Europeans.
In 1918, there was apparently a mild influenza outbreak during the spring, followed by a first wave of seriously threatening influenza late that autumn (in the Northern hemisphere) and into the first part of 1919.
But with the influenza pandemic of 1918-19, one must also remember the influence of massive doses of aspirin on the death rate. Severe as that flu version was, the majority of deaths appear to have been caused not by the flu but by the medicine.
Rosemary
Recognizing that past turmoil and future rhapsodies are projections of our mind prevents us from getting stuck in them. Just as the face in the mirror is not a real face, the objects of our memories and daydreams are likewise unreal. They are not happening now; they are simply mental images flickering in the mind.

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My understanding is that one case of flu doesn't confer *much* immunity to another--tho I guess can confer some.

Given that it's been described (over and over) as a "mild" one, I too wonder why on earth we've been closing schools and panicking over it! I've heard speculation that it may be back in a stronger fashion in the fall; someplace (TV news?) somebody said that was what happened with the 1918 flu (anyone know?).

The 1918 flu, tho, was qualitatively VERY different, as it was a *severe* one; maybe the person just meant that it might be back with a larger number of cases? (As with "any seasonal flu", which is what I keep hearing this one compared with. So why the panic!!!!? Oh yeah, because panic pays. :-) )

FWIW, I've been reading over and over about connection between flu and Vitamin D. I mean no one *wants* even a "mild seasonal flu." :-)
Perhaps this flu should be embraced as it is generally mild and
provides the opportunity for immunity to develop which may protect us
in the future against more virulent strains. It seems to be
spreading rapidly here and so many people are being put in quarantine
and antivirals.
I wonder if this is a sensible thought, Jean

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:23 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Tanks for the reminder about the aspirin connection!
What years were previous swine flu outbreaks (if there was more than
one)? My sense of time is appalling...

Re: Perhaps this flu

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:25 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Oh, a PS--recently in a local news show, a study was mentioned which
found something like 40% of pig farmers showing antibodies to (some
form of something they called) swine flu. Some smaller percentage of
the wider population (can't remember if details were given) also had
them. So I wonder whether it's really as uncommon or "new" a thing as
is being suggested?? That was fairly recent and on TV, so I could
probably find details if it mattered...