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Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:17 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Leilanae. Susan, Tanya, list,
A slight correction on Yagur:-)

With this information I found the preface, and here is what Hering said:

********
Every hom#opathic physician must have observed that the improvement in **pain**
takes place from above downward ; and in ** diseases**, from within outward.

....

The thorough cure for a widely ramified chronic disease in the organism is
indicated by the most important organs being first relieved, the affection
passes off in the order in which the organs had been effected, the more
important being relieved first, the less important next, and, the, skin last.

*********

I found some more, in an article by Adler:

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:Q- ... clnk&gl=de

It seems, Hering had wirtten an article about it:article originally published
in 1865 in a periodic called The Hahnemannian Monthly: "The
three hahnemannian rules regarding the hierarchy of the symptoms",

************
In the treatment
of chronic diseases the medication selected should remove the symptoms:
"from within outward",
"from upward downward";
"from the most essential organs to the less essential";
"from the brain and the nerves outward and downward, to the most external
and the lowest of all organs: the skin",
"in the reverse order of its appearance"

***************+

Perhaps Hering himself came to the conclusion that the items above partly
contradict each other, when they are applied to specific cases.

Anyway, 10 years laterin his "Analytical Repertory of the symptoms of the
mind", which he wrote 1875, he says in the chapter on "how to use this book":

*********

In all chronic and lingering cases, the symptoms appearing last, even though
they may appear insignificant, are always the most important in regard to the
selection of a drug; the oldest are the least important; all symtpoms between
have to be arranged according to the order of their appearance. **Only such
patients remain well and are really cured, whho have been rid of their symptoms
in the reverse order of their development**

**********

(The part I marked with **....** aboe are printed in italics in the book)

So it seems Hering fully returned to what Hahnemann had said about it and
disregarded the rest of his "law".

Another interesting point in this "how to" part of the repertory; it seems
that, just as Nash, Hering considered 3 symptoms of similarity between a case
and a drug, sufficient - provided they are *leading* symptoms.

However, this is referring to this book - which is quite different than most of
our MMs and reps. He in this statement then refers to his lectures in
Allentown, 1835.

Does anyone know whether they were published? I should like to know more about
that, in a more general way.

Ever since I read the latest edition of his "Domestic Physician" this author
has intrigued me. He is always presented as the staunchest of "purist
classical" prescribers, and this book is explained in a way that it was meant
for the missionaries somewhere in the jungles.

This, however, is only partly true. Hering kept adding to this book and kept
publishing fresh editions in German up to shortly before his death. They no
longer were for those missionaries but, by his own words, for lay people and
homeopathic doctors.

So, up to the end of his life, Hering also wrote homeopathic
cookbooks - full of recipes:-) It seems that some of the great
homeopaths of old were quite broad-minded.
Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:54 pm
by Leilanae
Hi Louise.
Maybe? http://quod.lib.umich.edu/h/homeop/
Leilanae

Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:48 pm
by healthinfo6
Reference to 1835 lectures in Analytical Therapeutics, Hering. Can't copy/paste from Google books.

http://books.google.com/books?id=7YsNAA ... t&resnum=5
The lectures were part of the summer curriculum. Interesting info on the school.

http://books.google.com/books?id=eZnP36 ... t&resnum=1
http://books.google.com/books?id=r0IVAA ... #PPA182,M1

Susan

Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:47 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Susan,

That is very helpful, thank you.

The problem is that, when googling, I get google.de - and there the
content is often quite different from what you appear to get.

I have tried to use "google.com" - but still I get google.de.

I really have to find some other search engine - I not all that happy
with google.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:32 am
by Shannon Nelson
Now that is weird!!
I guess that explains why the same e.g. supplements that some of us
find easy to get, others aren't able to find. I didn't realize we were
in the same boat as the Chinese on that one... Ouch. I'd be
interested to hear if you find better luck with a different engine?

Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:38 am
by Sheri Nakken
I had the same problem when living in the UK - automatically directs you to uk sites first - had to put u.s. in the search engine, but still didn't always work
Sheri

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Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:54 am
by Leilanae
If search privacy is an issue, try ixquick.com

Leilanae

Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:24 am
by Chris_Gillen
Hello,

What actually is the issue with the term "Hering's Law"? If you read what
Hering wrote e.g. in the Preface to Chronic Diseases and his article "3
Rules Concerning the Ranking of Symptoms" you can see that he qualified his
observations of the direction of cure according to certain prevailing
conditions, e.g. the direction of pain, and whether the case had been
markedly suppressed beforehand, the influence of psora etc... Hahnemann
also qualified his own observations of the direction of cure by basically
saying that previous (allopathic) bungling would influence the way cure
could proceed.

Adolph Lippe wrote about the "above downwards, from within out etc"
observations in 1878 in an article called Clinical Reflections and referred
to these directions as a "strict rule" and a "law of cure" and urged
"stricter application of them, with the usual good results which must
necessarily follow the strictest homoeopathic practice..." It is a VERY
useful clinical instruction on how to gauge the healing action after a
remedy is administered. I wonder if Andre Saine believes his favourite
homoeopath, Adolph Lippe, had it all skewed too???
http://www.homeoint.org/hompath/articles/1636.html

My oh my, doesn't Kent always get a bollocking! Kent was simply codifying
the observations of great homoeopaths like Hering, Lippe and Hahnemann in
one of his own Lectures. He probably expected people to go and read
Hahnemann, Lippe and Herings' original writings for themselves. Anyway, I
can't see any what the fuss is all about. Some critics like to make it look
as if the whole concept of the Direction of Cure is retarded by stating
several exceptions to the rule - but these exceptions are already covered in
the original articles, and honestly it doesn't take much to realize there's
a lot of practical expertise to be gained from reading exactly what was
written in the original articles.

Chris

Re: Hering, was Hering's Law - question

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:23 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Chris,

my question was not about the merits or demerits of Hering's Law, or
Rule - nor wheter it is a law or a rule or whatever.

I was simply trying to find out where Hering had formulated it - the
reason being - and I explained that - that in the Analytical Repertory
I **happened** to read that here he only wrote about the timeline.

This question was answered and I am happy:-)

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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