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Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:19 pm
by maresdorados
I group of homeopaths from Colombia, United States and Europe are looking for a Universal declaration considering homeopathy as patrimony of the world. The idea is make clear that homeopathy belongs to society, that it´s aproach to sickness, maladies, the knowledge of remedies and possible discovery of new remedies is the basis for declaring homeopathy as patrimony of the world. You can join the petion of the colombian homeopaths at:
http://www.gopetition.com/online/28003/

The idea is to start working in the proposal in order to take it tohe the world healt organization and to United Nations.

But we can star with small declarations, for example in our own institutions.

At Centir foundation in Colombia we have alredady declared homeopathy as patrimony of the world.

http://centir.itgo.com
Felipe Cárdenas D.I.hom Ph.D

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:59 pm
by Dave Hartley
Translation into English:

http://bit.ly/R51BI

http://translate.google.com/translate?p ... ry_state0=
Corrected URL in Spanish
http://www.gopetition.com/online/28003.html
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Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:20 pm
by Dave Hartley
Hi Felipe,

It is nice to meet you once again in cyberspace :-)
http://homeopathyworldcommunity.com/pro ... peCardenas

I hope this web community will be helpful in bringing homeopaths together
to create a strong enough collective intention .. in order to do all the work
which will make homeopathy the medicine of the 21st century.
The allopathic medical system is very good with mechanical things,
and useful in some diagnostic testing.. but other than that it is proving
to be DEADLY, it is the #1 direct cause of death in the U.S. !
The pharmaceutical companies are the main reason for this,
they exist only for profit; their pursuit of profit without any care
about humanity's suffering is the closest thing to evil which I can imagine,
and the pharmaceutical companies have apparently determined that
homeopathy is a threat to their profits (surely it IS !) -since homeopathy
can cure .. with maybe $10 worth of medicine .. what the allopathic
pharmaceuticals would never cure, but would sell $10,000 worth of
drugs until the patient is dead from complex drug interactions and
sapping of vitality / life force due to poisonous pharmaceuticals.

They know this.
We know this.

They have lots of money, and no conscience.
They will murder for money, in fact that is their BUSINESS !
It will take great dedication and the spiritual force of people who
are working for the good of humanity to create a situation where
homeopathy can be widely proclaimed as a healing gift and as
property of all humanity.
May I make a suggestion?
Many feminists have a great dislike for words such as "patrimony"
which have a meaning in "modern U.S. English" as "anti - feminist" ...
they perceive this as suggesting male domination; subjugation of females.
Feminists may not readily flock to a patrimony of free food for everyone,
because they may take insult rather than thinking about the thing.
So, if you can use what the feminists call "gender neutral"
words .. Humanity is gender neutral ; where patrimony is very male
& symbolizes domination; can you choose a different wording ?

Petition translation into English:

http://bit.ly/R51BI (shortcut to google translation below)
http://translate.google.com/translate?p ... ry_state0=

Petition in original Spanish
http://www.gopetition.com/online/28003.html
warm wishes,
david 510.776.5914 fax: 510.336.6671
www.holistiq.com
www.DavidHartley.com
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Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:34 pm
by Liz Brynin
But David, in this sense, patrimony is the only word to use! It is the word that is used by all governmental and international organisations. The term that is used to describe wonders of the world - like Machu Picchu or the Pyramids - they are 'world patrimony'. Forget the feminist carpings - quite honestly, if anyone complains about the use of this word they are uneducated and blinkered. I doubt they would be interested in homeopathy!
Liz

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:55 pm
by Tanya Marquette
talk about being underducated and blinkered
A lifetime radical feminist!
tanya

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:11 pm
by Dave Hartley
Hi Tanya,

That was rather cryptic.

Kindly state your opinion as to how radical feminism may accept or
reject the word patrimony in this sense ?

If you find it distasteful, how would you work around the facts that
Liz mentions, in terms of governments and the INCLUSIONARY meaning of
patrimony ?
warm wishes,
david 510.776.5914 fax: 510.336.6671
www.holistiq.com
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, tamarque@earthlink.net
wrote:

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:57 pm
by Tanya Marquette
well dave,
my comment i thought rather succinct as opposed to cryptic. i was
responding to liz's rather judgemental comments.
i am not sure yet how i feel about the word 'patrimony.' it does raise
a red flag for me and. i would prefer another term in its stead.
this type of issue is always about how semantics are used to either
support the status quo or create change. i don't care what government
or other organizations use today; language always gets changed when
it proves to be problematical. acutally newspeak is simply the propagandistic
use of language in a way that attempts to control the thinking and behavior
of people. as you probably recall, ronald reagon was quite a crafter of
newspeak. historically language around race, ablism and sexism has
changed when targeted groups raise the banner for respect and change.
this might be no different. so i reject liz's seemingly flippant dismissal
of the idea to change a word that may be offensive to 51% of the population
just because it has been in use. i can think of a few choice words that
are no longer considered acceptable because they continue to promote
derrogatory and prejudicial discrimination.
as for a substitue word, i will have to think about it but need to run out the
door at the moment. i always prefer non-gender, humanisitic language
even when it seems awkward. but what the heck, life is about making
change and adjustments to new things.
tanya

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:05 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Lateral thinking............might I suggest the use of the Maori word "Taonga" meaning a sacred treasure of the people, from the people and for the people.
It is this concept, legal in New Zealand, that protects Maori Traditional Healers, allowing them to practice freely, and (although not yet tested in courts and hopefully will not have to) also protects all other forms of traditional, non-conventional healing, including homeopathy.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit www.drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for articles and information.

Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:22 am
by Nancy Siciliana
How about "legacy"? How about humanity's gift to humanity?

Checking out the etymology of the word "patrimony" brings out its real meaning--patriarchy, patronising, patrimony all have the same root for a reason. And I would have to say ALL words shape the thought and thinking they convey as a concept--when you mention newspeak, Tanya, this was the underlying fact Orwell was writing about in his essay on how propaganda shapes our thoughts and behaviour. If we don't have a word to express an idea, we can't have the idea; if the word we have comes replete with bias, as "patrimony" does, then the idea will be informed by that bias.

I strongly object to anyone criticising the questioning of the use of the word "patrimony" on grounds of "feminism"--feminism makes a great point and actually gives us a glimpse of how prejudiced the word really makes us. If we can only think of something preserved to pass on from one generation to the next as though it were something passed down "from our fathers", and not also from all the women who were involved in creating and facilitating the creation of that which is passed down, then we're really creating a hugely biased and false belief about that inherited thing. There are a huge number of women who've worked to promote homeopathy, at every stage of its use in the world and in every place in the world it is used. In North America right now, if it weren't for feminists who were the first to name and delineate the misogyny in conventional medicine and then develop and spread a renewed interest in alternatives like homeopathy, we'd all be doing something else. To make them all invisible in passing down the gift of their efforts seems downright disrespectful--even if, in that masculinist scholarly way we have, we see that as being perfectly all right. We're all one big "brotherhood" of "mankind", aren't we?

Feminism pisses off a lot of people because it asks us all to take some comfortable priviliges we hold dear and question the heck out of them. A lot like homeopathy. "Aude Sapere" is an apt motto in feminist philosophy, too.
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Re: Homeopathy patrimony of humanity

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:27 am
by Irene de Villiers
I LIKE that!

You no mess with my Taonga, I no mess with your allopathy:-)

......Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."