Minutus

I've puzzled for a *long* time over what "meditation" means in the
rubrics! And now I see this: Mind; MEDITATION; PROSTRATION, with
extreme (m, 1, 0) (1) The only remedy listed is Plantago, and
referenced to Hale. "This is not your guru's meditation!" :-/

(And I'm hoping that sheds light on what the main rubric, "Meditation,"
refers to, and "Meditation, ailments from" ???

Thanks,
Shannon

I've always said if you want to understand a rubric then study the rx in that rubric - and with 'meditation', if you look to some of the main rx will give an indication - such as Sulphur and China = deep thinking, one intellectual and the other fantastical - or Sepia, this is due to stasis, a kind of shut down or Carb-an - a sad, near death reflection on life. So, with Plantago is it the meditation or the prostration from this that leads our understanding of this rx. I think it is confusion as Plantago has a very dull and inactive mind and any kind of mental exertion makes this <<

Hi Shannon,

I think it might depend on the date of the MM/proving/what ever.

If the proving/the original MM was in German, e. g. MM Pura, MM of CD,
Jahr it would be a bit of a problem to determine what the German
expression was. It seems that at the time of Hahnemann and somewhat
later (1848) the term "Meditation" was not part of the language.

Anyway, even now the definitions of "meditation" diverge quite a bit,
depending on the cycloüedia one uses:-)

Regards

Luise
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Look at mesmerized, desire to be

Yep, it diverges quite a bit!! Which is exactly why I've wondered.
Often it seems to be a synonym for "rumination", but might have been
different again in Hahnemann's time. I know I should really work it
out from the materia medica, but honestly that's not going to happen
any time soon.

Thanks for the background!
Shannon

I think these are not the same... Hahnemann used the term mesmerism in
a very technically correct way--as referencing the very specific
technique developed by Somebody Mesmer. It's described near the back
of the Organon, has something to do with hand movements stroking the
air upward or downward above the person's body, and I don't think has
any intrinsic connection to use of the term "meditation".

(Is there a rubric "desire to be mesmerized"? I can only find "desire
to be magnetized", and I don't know what that means either! But
appears to be separate from mesmerism?)

Shannon

Synthesis repertory (via Radar) offers magnetized and mesmerized as
synonymous ;
suggests
magnetized, desire to be
for the non-existent:
mesmerized, desire to be --

This would be somewhere that it'd be best to go back to find the
origin of the rubric, and if in German, find the exact word, and
puzzle through the translation.

Interesting, perhaps, as regards Hahnemann's practice of "mesmerism" -
Hahnemann's "Chronic Diseases"
Phosphorus
"the transfer of vital power from a healthy person (mesmerism) [*]
should be made use of ; i. e., from time to time a kindly, strong,
healthy person should hold for a few minutes the hands of the feeble
patient in his hands, directing his mind upon him with compassionate
heart and with an earnest desire of benefiting him ; or he may lay his
hands on the most enfeebled, suffering part of his body, keeping away
all noise which might distract the attention of the one who
communicates the force and also of the patient ; no persons must be
allowed to crowd up while this treatment is going on."

hat jemand ihre deutsche version der Hahnemann's Chronischen
Krankheiten handlich erhalten?

It would be very interesting to have additional translation inputs on
the pasage from Phos. quoted above,
as translated from the second enlarged German edition of 1835, by
Prof. Louis H. Tafel.

Nevertheless.. it seems as if Hahnemann is suggesting ... less
"mesmerism" in any occult sense, and more .. something along the lines
of Reiki or other currently practiced "healing touch" .. "laying on of
hands" ... he is giving "HOW TO" instructions here !
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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Shannon & Bob Nelson
wrote:

Hello,
Shannon wrote:
Mind; MEDITATION; PROSTRATION, with extreme (m, 1, 0)
The only remedy listed is Plantago, and referenced to Hale.
The source is from "Special Symptomatology of the New Remedies" Vol 1. by the American homeopath, Edwin M. Hale M.D., 4th edition published in 1875.
Plantago major.
MORAL SYMPTOMS:
General depression and despondency, though the weather is bright and beautiful.
Impatient and restless mood, with dull, stupid feeling in the brain; very irritable and morose temper; worse in the evening.
*Feeling of great prostration, with a meditative mood, and unable to associate the mind with any external object.
Attempting to exercise the mental faculties would increase the depression and occasion rapid respiration, with a feeling of great anxiety.
Great mental anxiety, pacing backward and forward in the room; then throwing one's self on the bed and rolling from one side to the other in the greatest mental agitation; sleep with the most horrible and frightful dreams, which awaken me.
Mind inactive, with a dull, muddled feeling the head.
Hale lists remedy analogues - Arnica, Hepar, Mercurius, Phytolacca.
To me, "meditative mood" in this sense means introspective and withdrawn, or self-absorbed with their pains and discomfort. They are < by exerting the mind. Stabbing and neuralgic pains (think earache or toothace) are characteristic in this remedy. Maybe a 19th Century American dictionary would shed more light.
Best,
Chris.

Desire to be magnetized.
I am writing a new book on the meaning and application of rubrics specifically Delusion rubrics, however this rubric pertains quite simply to the desire to be influenced by another. Each remedy listed under the rubric has the desire to have others persuade and inspire them.
Liz Lalor