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dear all,
with much frustration, the woman with the bleeding gums after tooth extraction,
is still bleeding profusely.
i have tried several remedies. we got some success on saturday and thought it
was under control. but the bleeding began again. i changed some remedies and
again had some success but the bleeding began again several hours later.
the blood was originally salty in taste, but not now
it was stringy, viscous and formed large clots in the mouth.
i just sent word to try an pack it with cayenne and to stop all remedies.
i had begun with 30c and then moved up to 200c.
does anyone have any notion as to what might be causing such bleeding.
it is only in 1 tooth that was pulled, although several were extracted at the same time.
i am questioning whether there wasn't some arterial damage, but i would think it would
have stopped by now. no?
tanya
tamarque@earthlink.net

If any artery is cut/torn transversally, it will have a small section and the circular fibers will contract, allowing a clot to form.
But in traumatic situations, and extraction is a trauma where the tooth is pulled and the artery torn without any control, you might have a longitudinal tear that does not allow for contraction and even gets bigger in time under the pressure of the arterial blood,
Apparently this is what happened here as the bleeding did not stop with well indicated remedies.
The only real solution is to pack the hole firmly or even to suture it over an absorbable packing. It is a mechanical problem............
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit www.drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for articles and information.

thanks so much for you response. i had thought about an artery being
damaged. i just called to say that she should go to the emergency room
and have it checked out--that it may be a torn artery that needs mechanical
repair. it has been at least 5 days that this bleeding is going on and i am
about 100 miles away so monitoring the situation is very difficult.
so good to have the people on this list as resources.
tanya
If any artery is cut/torn transversally, it will have a small section and the circular fibers will contract, allowing a clot to form.
But in traumatic situations, and extraction is a trauma where the tooth is pulled and the artery torn without any control, you might have a longitudinal tear that does not allow for contraction and even gets bigger in time under the pressure of the arterial blood,
Apparently this is what happened here as the bleeding did not stop with well indicated remedies.
The only real solution is to pack the hole firmly or even to suture it over an absorbable packing. It is a mechanical problem............
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit www.drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for articles and information.

Sounds like maybe a blood vessel was torn longitudinally (they heal
better "cut across" not "cut along").
Is it possible to apply (and leave in place) a pressure bandage with
calendula tincture on it?
Calendula is great at stopping profuse bleeding - used it a lot in
veterinary surgery for example after accidental nicking of vessels -
and it stops diffuse profuse bleeding as when someone is scalped -
but if the vessel is torn/cut lengthwise, it is asking a lot, and
needs some "bandage" help I think in that bleeding socket, "pressure"
bandage maybe held in place by biting on some of those dental cotton
tubes to hold the vessel closed a while.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I wonder if golden seal powder would help it stop--maybe sprinkled
onto the pressure bandage?

the situation is too frustrating. i cannot get the case clearly enough
from either
my daughter or this woman. the rx helped but didnt hold. i am not in a
position
to run over there with 1M potencies. am thinking that dr. roz's suggestion
may
be correct--a longitudinal artery cut that is not healing. i talked with
an osteopath
yesterday that i saw who made a similar suggestion. the other teeth that
were
pulled on the same day are not showing any problems so that suggests, also,
a
mechanical problem with the bleeding tooth cavity. i hate giving up, but
this may
be one of those situations when getting some help asap is necessary. she
is losing
a lot of blood it seems and i don't see this as good

tanya

Hi Tanya,

Have a look at crocus. *I think* it has that kind of blood you
describe.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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thanks, it didn't come up when i rep'd it.
that being noted, let me say that this woman used cayenne pepper
packed into the tooth and it seemed to have worked. i haven't received
any calls since one this afternoon that reported this success. i am keeping
hopeful that we won't have any further problem.
my daughter informed me that there are several other oral surgeries planned
so i may just order the crocus and hight potencies of the remedies that were used.
this has all been so frustrating.
tanya

btw, what potency would you recommend? i have never used crocus before
tanya

Tanya, Did you mention earlier that this woman is currently taking a host of different blood pressure medications? If so, that might well be the source of the continuous bleeding problem and conflicting with homoeopathic attempts to rectify. Surely she should be discussing this with her allopath and dentist before more oral surgery is undertaken??
Chris.