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Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:32 pm
by McPhee Family
I normally don't ask for personal advice on the list but I am in need of multiple opinions...
I sprained my ankle the week before Christmas trying to show my daughter how to do a cartwheel. (No laughing!). The sprain is bad and I still cannot walk on it. Every time I put pressure on my foot, the ankle "pops" again. (Left). This is an old injury for me - happened twice when I was in high school. I had a CT scan last week to confirm whether there was a break or not (didn't want to take Symphytum unless I knew the bone was in the right place). The CT scan showed thickening of the ligaments from the previous injuries but nothing else.
I took the usual - Arnica which reduced swelling and prevented bruising, and then Ruta which reduced pain significantly. I wondered if the old injury occurred because I have been on Palladium which seems to have cured my longstanding thyroid issue! And the ankle would have been the next major issue in my time line. Calc-C has worked well for me in the past however, each time I tried it for the ankle, I aggravate.
The problem is I believe I now have a blood clot in my calf. I am scheduled for an ultrasound at 3:00p today.
I have been taking Sulphur for the past week and a half to ward off the flu that is going around. If I change to a different remedy to address the ankle, the flu symptoms come back immediately. Otherwise, I feel fine. Well yesterday the pain in my calf worsened and when I stand and put my foot down, my foot turns purple. So I moved onto Calc-C yesterday and I could actually feel my ankle starting to strengthen or stiffen - not sure which! But a few hours later, I had sharp pains in my left ovary which then moved to my right. Then I had excruciating pain in my right ovary for about 3 hours. I then tried Lycopodium thinking perhaps I am going through the Sulph-Calc-Lyc trio which I have done in the past. But no relief. Then the flu symptoms started again (tingling in left nostril - stuffiness - head pain at root of nose - sour stomach). So I took the Sulphur again and the right ovary pain died down. However, that night, my calf pain increased and my left foot swelled.
So this morning, I entered "thrombosis, lower limb" and came up with Apis, then "purple foot", Apis again one of three. Then realized Apis has ovaritis and severe pain in right ovary! Bingo! So I just took Apis, 200c, 1 tsp water dose. My foot has already gone back to normal size, normal color, and I can feel slight tingling since taking the Apis this morning. I actually have complete range of motion in my ankle as well with just a bit of soreness! But I am too afraid to step on it.
So problem ...
... I don't want to take any blood thinners... I already have copious, clotted menses (sorry if TMI), and a blood thinner may worsen this... clearly I need a better chronic remedy. Lachesis looks high on my list. However, I also don't want to have a stroke or die! (Of course I turn 40 this month so this is just the icing on the cake). I also don't handle medicines well and have had numerous allergic reactions to medications.
My question is... has anyone had a patient that has had a blood clot and not taken the blood thinner - just a remedy? Or is that a ridiculous gamble?
All thoughts are welcome. However, please hold back on the "don't treat yourself" warnings. I have had one fantastic homeopath for years and have had two not so great homeopaths since moving. I'm still looking for the right fit and in the mean time, I feel more than comfortable treating myself. One of my strong points is an ability to pinpoint symptoms (both M/E and physical) and think objectively. Not to mention, I'm stubborn. :-)
Thank you!
Truly,
Erica
P.S. In case it matters, Carcinosin was my constitutional remedy for 3 years.

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:24 pm
by Marco Franzreb
Hi,
I know of a colleague treating such patients just with Arn D6 thrice daily, I personally would not dare
All the best
Dr. M. Franzreb Corbelletti
Castellana 171 Bajo izda., 28046 Madrid
www.drmarcofranzreb.com
Tel.: 914491957
Fax: 914491965
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Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:58 pm
by d_rona2000
Just reviewing my quick list of sprain/strain 'remedies to think
about':
Ruta grav, Rhus tox, Bellis per, Symphytum, Aconite
I know you mentioned you used Arnica early - have you tried
repeating? It is the remedy I think of first in a blood clot
situation.

Best wishes for your quick recovery. [Cartwheels ????? ok - not
laughing - but smiling really big]

Donna

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wrote:
need of multiple opinions...
daughter how to do a cartwheel. (No laughing!). The sprain is bad and
I still cannot walk on it. Every time I put pressure on my foot, the
ankle "pops" again. (Left). This is an old injury for me - happened
twice when I was in high school. I had a CT scan last week to confirm
whether there was a break or not (didn't want to take Symphytum
unless I knew the bone was in the right place). The CT scan showed
thickening of the ligaments from the previous injuries but nothing
else.
bruising, and then Ruta which reduced pain significantly. I wondered
if the old injury occurred because I have been on Palladium which
seems to have cured my longstanding thyroid issue! And the ankle
would have been the next major issue in my time line. Calc-C has
worked well for me in the past however, each time I tried it for the
ankle, I aggravate.
scheduled for an ultrasound at 3:00p today.
the flu that is going around. If I change to a different remedy to
address the ankle, the flu symptoms come back immediately. Otherwise,
I feel fine. Well yesterday the pain in my calf worsened and when I
stand and put my foot down, my foot turns purple. So I moved onto
Calc-C yesterday and I could actually feel my ankle starting to
strengthen or stiffen - not sure which! But a few hours later, I had
sharp pains in my left ovary which then moved to my right. Then I had
excruciating pain in my right ovary for about 3 hours. I then tried
Lycopodium thinking perhaps I am going through the Sulph-Calc-Lyc
trio which I have done in the past. But no relief. Then the flu
symptoms started again (tingling in left nostril - stuffiness - head
pain at root of nose - sour stomach). So I took the Sulphur again and
the right ovary pain died down. However, that night, my calf pain
increased and my left foot swelled.
with Apis, then "purple foot", Apis again one of three. Then realized
Apis has ovaritis and severe pain in right ovary! Bingo! So I just
took Apis, 200c, 1 tsp water dose. My foot has already gone back to
normal size, normal color, and I can feel slight tingling since
taking the Apis this morning. I actually have complete range of
motion in my ankle as well with just a bit of soreness! But I am too
afraid to step on it.
copious, clotted menses (sorry if TMI), and a blood thinner may
worsen this... clearly I need a better chronic remedy. Lachesis looks
high on my list. However, I also don't want to have a stroke or die!
(Of course I turn 40 this month so this is just the icing on the
cake). I also don't handle medicines well and have had numerous
allergic reactions to medications.
clot and not taken the blood thinner - just a remedy? Or is that a
ridiculous gamble?
treat yourself" warnings. I have had one fantastic homeopath for
years and have had two not so great homeopaths since moving. I'm
still looking for the right fit and in the mean time, I feel more
than comfortable treating myself. One of my strong points is an
ability to pinpoint symptoms (both M/E and physical) and think
objectively. Not to mention, I'm stubborn. :-)
for 3 years.

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:48 am
by bryonyvaughn
I can't help you with the blood thinner question but am curious about
your Apis experience.
McPhee Family wrote:

the flu that is going around. If I change to a different remedy to
address the ankle, the flu symptoms come back immediately.

Apis, then "purple foot", Apis again one of three. Then realized Apis
has ovaritis and severe pain in right ovary! Bingo! So I just took
Apis, 200c, 1 tsp water dose. My foot has already gone back to normal
size, normal color, and I can feel slight tingling since taking the
Apis this morning.

Have your nasal/flu symptoms increased or did the Apis help you there
too? This year my flu cases have been all over the place. I have one
client who normally does well with Gels actually have an Apis flu.
I'd never seen that before and am curious if it covered your cold/flu
precursor symptoms.

3 years.

While my flu cases have been all over the place every strep throat
case I've taken this winter has needed Merc. I'm not ready to comb my
records to prove it *but* it seems like every person I've ever given
Carc has come down with this Merc strep. Many others have too but
there's no other "everybody's who's taken this remedy" trend like with
Carc.

Cheryl, who's crazy flipping weather is bringing out all sorts of
miasms ;-)

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:24 am
by Shannon M
Hi Erica,
Argh, frustrating situation!! I await others' thoughts re the blood
thinners, but I would think... What about good ol' fish oils? My
understanding is that omega 3s are *very* effective blood thinners, but
in a good-for-you way. But you'd want a nutritionist's input about
dosage for the situation...
merry-go-round of chasing symptoms with not-quite-right remedies, and
what pulled me out of it nicely (surprisingly nicely, actually) was
digging into my (mostly still unopened) cell salts. I got really nice
results from Bioplasma (favorite dosing method so far is 2 tabs to a
cup or half-cup water, and sip as needed), and then sometimes targeting
with single or mixed cell salts, per my little guidebook. It had the
dual benefit of very effectively keeping the problem in check (tho I
went back to a "real remedy" :-) later, so not sure what it would
have taken to cure with them), and also letting me stop throwing so
many (higher potency) remedies at myself. My experience with them is
still very limited, but I'm going to be working to change that! Good
luck...
Shannon

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:57 am
by Sue Smith
Hello Erica
I don't know how you feel about therapeutic combinations, but I have a
note of a specific for blood clots: Arnica/Kali Mur/Crataegus all in a
3x. Or perhaps you could consider Kali Mur as a Tissue Salt?
Hope this helps
Sue

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:58 pm
by McPhee Family
Dr. Corbelletti - Thank you! I appreciate knowing this. Yes, I am much more daring in treating myself! Perhaps because I feel comfortable in dealing with what could be the results.
Donna - this made me laugh out loud! [Cartwheels ????? ok - not laughing - but smiling really big]... I knew to not actually *do* the cartwheel (thinking I would probably break my arms!) but didn't think I was so out of shape as to injure myself just demonstrating the technique!!! And yes, I took Arnica the night before last while lying in bed. I do think it helped with swelling until I got up in the morning.
Cheryl - interestingly enough - YES - it *did* help my flu symptoms!!! I have stuck with the Apis since yesterday morning as it is really helping all around. The swelling has gone down in my foot, it is mostly back to its normal color and .... I am walking on it with the walking brace for the first time in two weeks! I have no more sneezing, runny nose, cough, or upset stomach! I'm still getting the purple color and swelling more at night when I stand from sitting but if I keep on the dosing, it's fine. Aggravated slightly with the ovary pain after the first 3 doses but then fine - haven't had any in over 24 hours. Isn't it grand to cover the totality of the case! :-)
Also, that is very curious! We also had that "streppish" sore throat back in November. All three of us in the family that had been on Carc (2 of us for over 3 years, 1 for 6 months) responded quite well to Merc. I don't know if it was strep for sure as we didn't get a diagnosis but symptoms were cured quite quickly. It was a *very* painful sore throat and Strep was definitely going around. How interesting!
Sue, thank you for that suggestion. I don't normally do combos but I will look at the remedies involved. I like the cell salt idea as well.
I had the ultrasound yesterday after I had already had 5 doses (water) over the course of 7 hours. My ankle was feeling great and I had no swelling and no purple color by the time of the ultrasound. She said my blood was unusually thick and there was an area of concern behind the knee. She said she could not see a clot but was concerned there either was a clot that had dissolved or there was one buildling. If the symptoms came back or continued I'm supposed to go back in for another scan. I feel the Apis has helped and hopefully won't need to go back.
I still can't rationalize the Apis but I know since the symptoms fit it doesn't really matter. I'm hoping to switch to a chronic remedy once symptoms do not return. I am looking at a snake remedy for a chronic right now. Did anyone else find the irony in my posting about a coagulation problem and then posting about my daughter's simillimum being Crotalus Horridus. This would be the daughter we affectionately refer to as "mini-me" because we are so much alike!
Thanks for all the very helpful responses on and off-list. This is such a great list.
Truly,
Erica

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:02 pm
by ELM
Thanks Shannon,
I am just learning more about cell salts myself... I'm going to step
up my reading! I had not even heard of the Bioplasma one you mention.
Any good reading sources?

As for fish oils -- I would love to take them however, no matter how
many different ways I try to take it, I can't take it without reflux.
I've tried freezing it, taking it on empty stomach, taking it on full
stomach, taking it during meals, taking it in morning, taking it at
night. It just doesn't agree with me. :-( I'm looking at flaxseed oil
and other alternatives right now. Thanks though!

Truly,
Erica

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Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:06 pm
by Shannon M
Is that the same as phlebitis?
Shannon

Re: Question re: blood clot - mine...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:26 pm
by Shannon M
Hi Erica,
I haven't found anything specific to read about Bioplasma. But, it's a
combination of all 12, and seems sort of like a "homeopathic
multi-vitamin". OTOH I think it was Donna(?) who said she sometimes
sees aggravations from Bioplasma, so I guess it still needs to be used
watchfully. (For me on myself, tho, no problems so far, just benefit.)
Bummer about the fish oil... :-/ By "reflux" I guess you mean more
than just burping up the taste? For me the key is to take it at
*start* of a meal, so there's plenty of stuff to absorb it and "hold it
down"; but the only thing I'm trying to avoid there is just the taste...
Shannon