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canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:56 am
by d_rona2000
Is there a rubric for excessive licking? I know there could be a
variety of reasons (for comfort, out of anxiety, need for salt,
etc.). in this case, there seems to be an oral fixation. He finds a
stuffed toy with an appropriate size limb or nose and sucks on in for
up to an hour. The licking of hands, feet, pant legs, etc. is not
constant - but when it gets started it is compulsive, intense and
overwhelming to him - nothing short of removing to another room will
stop it. These issues are not constant - and almost turn on and turn
off at specific hours in the day (early evening). For background -
male, 1.5 years old, small breed, home made diet, overall good
health.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Donna

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Re: canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:41 am
by Gisela dicarlo
Dona
Have you tried Rescue? In the water he drinks. Could also be an itch. But Rescue will calm him down.
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Re: canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:03 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Donna,
I think I would try to evaluate it in context of the rest of his case.
What does it feel / seem like when he does it; can you put it into a
human metaphor? I mean, e.g. is it like compulsive attention seeking,
or trying to please (anxious; desires affection?)? Or like a
self-stimulating behavior, or maybe just "Compulsive behavior" or
"Automatic acts"? Does it seem to calm him when he's nervous, and what
starts it off, etc.? Is it specifically time-related, or is there
maybe any type of activity or event that *also* happens at that time?
Shannon

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: anac., anh., bacch-a., bell., calc., falco-p., hell., hydr-ac.,
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: agar., Aloe, anh., arg-m., arg-n., Ars., astra-e., bacch-a., calc.,
carc., caust., choc., coli., con., cupr., cupr-acet., foll., gink.,
harp., herin., iod., kali-c., lac-c., lith-c., lyss., manc., merc.,
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thuj., tub., Valer.

Re: canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:23 am
by d_rona2000
Yes, I did try to work on it from the point of view of compulsive
behavior - it does not appear to be aimed at pleasing or attention
seeking. It also does not appear to be event driven as you might
expect for a 'nervous' reaction - i.e. when an alarm goes off or
nearby dogs start to bark. There is no clear trigger for the
behavior - but the reaction is clear - the obscessive licking or
sucking on a stuffed animal. If I had only seen it once, I would
assume it was self calming behavior - but seeing it repeated - it
does not appear to actually calm him - it just goes on and on until
fatigue or human intervention ends the session. Under most
circumstance he would not be called a 'nervous' individual, but he
has a very low threshold for reaction to stimuli.

Thank you for the ideas and input.

Donna

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Re: canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:27 am
by d_rona2000
Over time we have tried several Bach Flower remedies, as well as DAP
(dog appeasing pharomone) which don't seem to have any influence on
this behavior. By itch - do you mean a skin irritation or an
irritation in his mouth?

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Re: canine question

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:20 pm
by Shannon Nelson
The thing I'd look at next is, what remedies might you be thinking of
*aside* from that behavior?

Re: canine question

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:28 am
by Irene de Villiers
It goes along with some constitutional types:-)
Try to repertorize the innate constitutional type of the dog and I
suggest a few doses of that, at 200C.

SUggest: ALSO check the food, treats ands supplements for toxins.
They (eg alfalfa) can cause this kind of hyperesthesia type response.

Namaste,
Irene
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