Difference between the Complete and RU, Radar next plan
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:14 pm
Hi Ellen,
At least in the latest editions of The Complete and RU the actual content of the 2 repertories is identical. Same rubrics and same remedy lists. Both are meant to be Bönninghausen's type repertories with the same grades 1,2,3,4 as found in TTB and TPB 1848 editions. What differs from one another is the arrangement of rubrics. Roger van Z. has decidedly settled on Bönninghausen's model and ideas. Please listen to a past interview of him
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/rvanzandvoort-1.mp3
The RU is more devoted to the addicts of the TTB arrangement of rubrics and has a supplementary level in the tree-like structure with groups Locations, Phenomena (for subjective and objective sensations), Modalities, etc. being apparent. In the Complete these same groups follow one another at the same level directly under the chapters Mind, Head, Generals, etc. It proves here much easier of use and time saving.
I suppose you use the Radar RUV or corresponding Complete as I did and still do many times because the Radar platform (program itself) is undeniably better than others. The advantage of ISIS, the big program which I use preferably, is its emphasis on the Complete: I asked for the very latest, just released edition of the Complete (Complete 2008), which they did not yet distributed at the time and had it on my computer 10 days later !
I cannot assert the TTB rubrics are integrated into RUV. I tried to find in RUV a rubric coming specifically from the TTB but could not find one after looking up for a quarter of a hour. But there are indubitably additions in it coming from Bönninghausen's work and most likely from his 3 repertories. They are indiced by the letter b. This letter may also refer to additions from Boger's Boenninghausen. There is a lack of clearness in the sources used.
Bönninghausen's repertories:
1) Therapeutisches Taschenbuch für.... (Amply discussed on this forum)
2) Systematisch-alphabetishes Repertorium der nicht antipsorischen Arzneien
http://books.google.fr/books?id=GvY3AAA ... epertorium
3) Systematisch-alphabetisches Repertorium der antipsorischen Arzneien
http://books.google.fr/books?id=jvg3AAA ... epertorium
In RUV all of the TTB or TPB is not included, but it seems to be the case in the Complete 2008. Moreover in the Complete 2008 every remedy is refered to the books it comes from but not yet to which rubric in the book it comes from; here Radar's Synthesis is better as it provides the book and the rubric, a dangerous (I turned from away from Synthesis...) and courageous fact which permits the user to identify readily any error in additions. I do not critized Radar in general, but just their Synthesis getting on.
Synthesis and The Complete are the 2 great competing repertories (I know nothing of MacRepertory). I suspect Radar was not very pleased from the beginning to provide RU and the Complete... But much people should have been requesting them as Synthesis did not provide a Bönninhausen's type structure. As I was getting on in german I asked Radar for a trade-in for the german/english version of RU, but they answered they had no such agreement with Roger van Z and I should have to pay the german/english from scratch ! I know now that Roger is absolutely ready to trade-in or up-grading of his repertories. And this from later personal experience when buying the SESAM then ISIS programs. In both instances I paid only about 100 euros when passing:
- from RUV (english) to RUVII/Complete 2007 (english/german): RADAR to SESAM
http://www.sesam-homoeopathie.com/index ... =übersicht
- from RUVII/Complete 2007 to Complete 2008 (english): SESAM to ISIS.
You just show an invoice from your former Program provider and it's OK. Or you contact Roger himself.
As to the next plan of RADAR and why they take RU from the market, I have my idea about it. It seems from what I have heard here and there from Frederik Scroyens that they plan to make Synthesis evolve into a Bönnighausen's type structured repertory. You will confirm it by yourself if listening to Frederik's interviews:
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/fschroyens-1.mp3
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/fschroyens-2.mp3
which I have not listened yet.
I hope this answer will meet your expectations,
Best Regards,
Michel Ramillon (France)
----- Message d'origine ----
De : Ellen Madono
À : minutus@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Samedi, 13 Septembre 2008, 12h19mn 26s
Objet : Re: [Minutus] RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Michael,
Do you know how Radar's UR (Universal Rep) compares to the Complete? The UR is supposed to encorporate the Boenninghausen rubrics, but I have never seen it. They are going to take the UR off the matket in October and I am wondering why and what their next plan is.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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At least in the latest editions of The Complete and RU the actual content of the 2 repertories is identical. Same rubrics and same remedy lists. Both are meant to be Bönninghausen's type repertories with the same grades 1,2,3,4 as found in TTB and TPB 1848 editions. What differs from one another is the arrangement of rubrics. Roger van Z. has decidedly settled on Bönninghausen's model and ideas. Please listen to a past interview of him
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/rvanzandvoort-1.mp3
The RU is more devoted to the addicts of the TTB arrangement of rubrics and has a supplementary level in the tree-like structure with groups Locations, Phenomena (for subjective and objective sensations), Modalities, etc. being apparent. In the Complete these same groups follow one another at the same level directly under the chapters Mind, Head, Generals, etc. It proves here much easier of use and time saving.
I suppose you use the Radar RUV or corresponding Complete as I did and still do many times because the Radar platform (program itself) is undeniably better than others. The advantage of ISIS, the big program which I use preferably, is its emphasis on the Complete: I asked for the very latest, just released edition of the Complete (Complete 2008), which they did not yet distributed at the time and had it on my computer 10 days later !
I cannot assert the TTB rubrics are integrated into RUV. I tried to find in RUV a rubric coming specifically from the TTB but could not find one after looking up for a quarter of a hour. But there are indubitably additions in it coming from Bönninghausen's work and most likely from his 3 repertories. They are indiced by the letter b. This letter may also refer to additions from Boger's Boenninghausen. There is a lack of clearness in the sources used.
Bönninghausen's repertories:
1) Therapeutisches Taschenbuch für.... (Amply discussed on this forum)
2) Systematisch-alphabetishes Repertorium der nicht antipsorischen Arzneien
http://books.google.fr/books?id=GvY3AAA ... epertorium
3) Systematisch-alphabetisches Repertorium der antipsorischen Arzneien
http://books.google.fr/books?id=jvg3AAA ... epertorium
In RUV all of the TTB or TPB is not included, but it seems to be the case in the Complete 2008. Moreover in the Complete 2008 every remedy is refered to the books it comes from but not yet to which rubric in the book it comes from; here Radar's Synthesis is better as it provides the book and the rubric, a dangerous (I turned from away from Synthesis...) and courageous fact which permits the user to identify readily any error in additions. I do not critized Radar in general, but just their Synthesis getting on.
Synthesis and The Complete are the 2 great competing repertories (I know nothing of MacRepertory). I suspect Radar was not very pleased from the beginning to provide RU and the Complete... But much people should have been requesting them as Synthesis did not provide a Bönninhausen's type structure. As I was getting on in german I asked Radar for a trade-in for the german/english version of RU, but they answered they had no such agreement with Roger van Z and I should have to pay the german/english from scratch ! I know now that Roger is absolutely ready to trade-in or up-grading of his repertories. And this from later personal experience when buying the SESAM then ISIS programs. In both instances I paid only about 100 euros when passing:
- from RUV (english) to RUVII/Complete 2007 (english/german): RADAR to SESAM
http://www.sesam-homoeopathie.com/index ... =übersicht
- from RUVII/Complete 2007 to Complete 2008 (english): SESAM to ISIS.
You just show an invoice from your former Program provider and it's OK. Or you contact Roger himself.
As to the next plan of RADAR and why they take RU from the market, I have my idea about it. It seems from what I have heard here and there from Frederik Scroyens that they plan to make Synthesis evolve into a Bönnighausen's type structured repertory. You will confirm it by yourself if listening to Frederik's interviews:
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/fschroyens-1.mp3
http://www.wholehealthnow.com/fschroyens-2.mp3
which I have not listened yet.
I hope this answer will meet your expectations,
Best Regards,
Michel Ramillon (France)
----- Message d'origine ----
De : Ellen Madono
À : minutus@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Samedi, 13 Septembre 2008, 12h19mn 26s
Objet : Re: [Minutus] RADAR Was: How to learn the Boenninghausen repertory and method
Hi Michael,
Do you know how Radar's UR (Universal Rep) compares to the Complete? The UR is supposed to encorporate the Boenninghausen rubrics, but I have never seen it. They are going to take the UR off the matket in October and I am wondering why and what their next plan is.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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