Minutus

Your information is old, Irene.
This isn't info about viruses being made by the cells...........that is in info I don't have access to, to produce here

But.................more on the lies about disease-causing viruses

google stefan lanka

for one and then all the other info I have sent

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/slartefact.htm

A little virology

Viruses are essentially just packages of genetic information enclosed in a coat which consists of proteins. They can reproduce themselves only by infecting a suitable host cell and appropriating the chemical machinery they find there. The proteins making up the viruses are characteristic for each species of virus. Apart from enveloping and transporting the genetic information intact, the composition of proteins for a given virus results in a specific shape for the virus particle.

This much is generally known. Less well-known is the existence of other particles which look like viruses but aren't, and are nonchalantly referred to as "virus-like" particles. Such particles are far from rare, found, for example, always in placentas, and very frequently in the artificial environment of laboratory cell cultures. They have served to muddy the waters considerably as far as AIDS research is concerned, because particles just like these have been called HIV. To date, none of these has been characterised and shown to exist as an entity which one may justifiably call a virus.

and more

http://www.oikos.org/AIDS/intlanka.htm

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/news/kkletter.htm

http://www.whale.to/a/lanka.html
"No! Because none of those "viruses" that claim to make you ill, like smallpox, polio, hepatitis, aids, ebola, measles, mumps, rubella and tic viruses has ever been seen, isolated and proven as existent "
http://alt.nntp2http.com/medical/2007/0 ... 4c450.html
"

1.b) Photographs of viruses, maintained to be diseasecausing,
in a human or an animal or in a bodily fluid from any such -
in which of course such a virus is supposed to multiply and
in which it supposedly exists in vast quantities - do not
exist! This every layman can check on: Is there, or is there
not, a photo of a virus claimed to be diseasecausing, about
which it is maintained that it is found in a human or in a
bodily fluid?

All photographs of viruses which are maintained to be dis-
easecausing are photographs of quite normal component parts
of cells or of artificially produced particles. In all
scientific publications which claim that photos contained in
them are photos of diseasecausing viruses, this even is
described. Every layman who understands English can check on
this: By reading!
"

againgoogle stefan lanka
At 01:18 AM 9/11/2008, you wrote:

Dear Sheri
Let us assume that HIV does not exist.
So what is it that passes from some one with symptoms attributed by allopaths to 'AIDS' to someone who did not have AIDS before and infects them with similar symptoms?
The method of transfer being through unprotected sex or blood transfusion etc.
I note that the first article states: "who argue that HIV has never been isolated according to the Pasteur Institute criteria of 1973" Whether the Pasteur Institute Criteria of 1973 still has validity I would not know.
Rgds
Soroush

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sheri Nakken
Sent: 11 September 2008 11:04
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] PS Fear of the Invisible book on viruses & polio and AIDS and HIV
Your information is old, Irene.
This isn't info about viruses being made by the cells...........that is in info I don't have access to, to produce here

But.................more on the lies about disease-causing viruses

google stefan lanka

for one and then all the other info I have sent

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/slartefact.htm

A little virology

Viruses are essentially just packages of genetic information enclosed in a coat which consists of proteins. They can reproduce themselves only by infecting a suitable host cell and appropriating the chemical machinery they find there. The proteins making up the viruses are characteristic for each species of virus. Apart from enveloping and transporting the genetic information intact, the composition of proteins for a given virus results in a specific shape for the virus particle.

This much is generally known. Less well-known is the existence of other particles which look like viruses but aren't, and are nonchalantly referred to as "virus-like" particles. Such particles are far from rare, found, for example, always in placentas, and very frequently in the artificial environment of laboratory cell cultures. They have served to muddy the waters considerably as far as AIDS research is concerned, because particles just like these have been called HIV. To date, none of these has been characterised and shown to exist as an entity which one may justifiably call a virus.

and more

http://www.oikos.org/AIDS/intlanka.htm

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/news/kkletter.htm

http://www.whale.to/a/lanka.html
"No! Because none of those „viruses“ that claim to make you ill, like smallpox, polio, hepatitis, aids, ebola, measles, mumps, rubella and tic viruses has ever been seen, isolated and proven as existent "
http://alt.nntp2http.com/medical/2007/0 ... 4c450.html
"

1.b) Photographs of viruses, maintained to be diseasecausing,
in a human or an animal or in a bodily fluid from any such -
in which of course such a virus is supposed to multiply and
in which it supposedly exists in vast quantities - do not
exist! This every layman can check on: Is there, or is there
not, a photo of a virus claimed to be diseasecausing, about
which it is maintained that it is found in a human or in a
bodily fluid?

All photographs of viruses which are maintained to be dis-
easecausing are photographs of quite normal component parts
of cells or of artificially produced particles. In all
scientific publications which claim that photos contained in
them are photos of diseasecausing viruses, this even is
described. Every layman who understands English can check on
this: By reading!
"

againgoogle stefan lanka
At 01:18 AM 9/11/2008, you wrote:
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM

certainly
but it matters to their cure - if they buy into the whole thing about viruses and HIV positive and all and then take their drugs to kill them, then it will be much more difficult for them to get healthy and have a cure with homeopathy
Sheri

At 03:51 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
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