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				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:58 pm
				by rudolph.leicester
				My name is Rudolph Leicester.  I am 20 years old and live in 
Scotland. I am studying homeopathy, but only started two years ago.  
I love it immensely and my dream is to become a really good 
homeopath, practising homeopathy the way it should be practised.  I 
am a great admirer of David Little and although I love reading 
everything he writes, I am definitely not at the stage where I can 
actually understand it.  There's a lot I don't understand with 
homeopathy, so I hope you bear with me if I ask questions that might 
seem obvious to you.
But my main reason for joining this list is that my girlfriend has 
been diagnosed recently with a thyroid problem and she has been 
prescribed Thyroxine, which she is taking.  How successful is it to 
treat Hypothyrodism (hers is underactive) with homeopathy?  Can 
someone who has just started taking Thyroxine, stop using it and be 
treated homeopathically instead?  I really would love her to come 
off Thyroxine.  
Secondly, and this relates to my dog Pepper.  She is now aged 7 
years and has got a flea problem.  This is the first year we've ever 
had a problem with them.  Her skin is becoming quite bad and we 
think it may have something to do with the fleas, or could it be 
that her skin has become bad and it's attracting the fleas?  Anyway, 
I've been told that putting a clove of garlic in her food daily will 
help immensely, as fleas don't like garlic.  I've also been told 
that garlic can be bad for dogs.  Have any of you any experience of 
this or advice?   I can't seem to find anything that says garlic is 
bad, other than the fact it belongs to the onion family.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
RL
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:53 pm
				by Irene de Villiers
				Suggest:
Add some brewer's yeast to her food, also supplement her B1 and B2  
and general multi-B vitamins.
If you use an anti-flea product to get started (which is better than  
the damage fleas cause as they drink 22 times their weight in blood  
DAILY) then I suggest Frontline SPRAY (active ingredient fipronil) -  
and use enough to dampen the coat everywhere - and do NOT bath before  
or after for a week.
Do NOT use Frotline PLUS - the "plus" is methoprene and very much  
more toxic than fipronil, which is needed in microscopically small  
amount to be effective - and that low concentration makes it least  
toxic compared to other options.
"Natural" products - plant or oil based or DE or borax etc - are  
unfortunately a LOT more toxic for dogs as the dog's liver can not  
detox them as we can.. For example garlic destroys the red blood  
cells (It causes Heinz body anemia in dogs).
Also toxic to dogs:
Alfalfa, ....yucca,... rosemary, marigold and other herb  
extracts,.... broccoli.....grapes and raisins....onion....essential  
oils.
Namaste,
     Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:09 am
				by Irene de Villiers
				Have her discuss with a good endocrinologist with some natural  
medicine training:
Thyroxine is synthetic T4. The active thyroid hormone is T3, not T4.  
In theory the body converts T4 to T3, but in practice if the thyroid  
is not doing it already, then T4 is not going to help much. It is far  
better to take natural thyroid hormone such as Armour (containing T4,  
T3, T2, T1) instead of Thyroxine, as it supplies all the thyroid  
hormones so that feedback loops are maintained a healthy way, there  
are far less side effects and so that active hormone (T3) is always  
available. Long-term, the T4 only can lead to problems.
Some doctors automatically prescribe synthetic T4. Here is a letter  
discussing one person's (typical) experience:
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/thyroiddrugs/l/blletter.htm
I've yet to find what homeopathy can not fix - but she may need  
natural supplement till it is fixed, as interim support, then wean  
off it AFTER the homeopathy does its work and the thyroid is  
functioning well again.
Namaste,
      Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:18 am
				by Tanya Marquette
				fleas:
the yahoo group CNRS has lots of information on this issue with dogs.
i just can't recall the information clearly enough to spout it to you. 
you can also do a google search on the issue and see what you get
brewer's yeast is another supplement used to inhibit flea susceptibility
tanya
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:16 am
				by Shannon M
				Ah, fleas...
Just FWIW, in several decades and... well, maybe 5 dogs and countless
cats, I've never seen fleas hang out on an animal being offered free
choice brewers yeast.  I just keep a little pile sprinkled onto part
of their food (or all across the food is okay too), and let them eat
as much or as little as they want.  I've yet to have a cat or dog that
didn't gobble it down, and I've yet to see one get fleas *unless*
being deprived of its yeast!  (Diatomaceous earth has worked really
well on the occasional "breakthrough" infestation; e.g. if putting a
bit behind the cushion of the couch for them to crawl thru, has worked
well without leaving great clouds of it; then when the fleas are gone,
I vacuum it up.)
Shannon
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				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:50 am
				by Tanya Marquette
				i worked with de with some good benefits, but not spectacular.  i get relatively
big infestations every mid-july-end of august.  i have used an enzyme product
called safe solutions which worked terrifically.  if is cost effective and easy to
apply and not toxic or dusty, etc.   it can be sprayed outdoors in the shade where
fleas develop to keep the immediate outdoor area under control.
my cats would not eat food with brewer's yeast.
tanya
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:49 am
				by Christine Wyndham-Thomas
				Hi Rudolph and welcome.
I, too, have been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid issue and am under the care of a homeopath.  My treatment only started about a month ago, so it's early days yet but I'm hoping it'll be successful.  She seems to be a good homeopath and so I'm confident.  I suppose I was lucky enough that when I went to the doctor's for a diagnosis the readings came back that I was very low on the thyroid count and also on Vit.D but none of it was serious although he did want to speak to me to discuss options.  That's when he prescribed Thyroxine.  Thankfully I haven't started using it and certainly don't intend to.  I know I've had the condition for nearly two years.  I would have thought that as your girlfriend has only just started taking thyroxine and provided she finds herself a good homeopath, then I would have thought it won't be too late for her to come off thyroxine.
Christine
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:48 am
				by Michel Ramillon
				Hi Rudolph,
    My experience is that coming off allopathic medecines in general is not imperative to get a curative response with a concomitant homeopathic treatment. If allopathy cannot be avoided as to your health or as to the severity of the symptoms, you must go on with it for the time required.
    The main problem when continuing the allopathy is that an additional dynamic state (layer) of medecinal origin (offen a Nux vomica state) will appear and complicate the homeopathy. But it is by far not always the case. On the contrary the allopathy frequently causes the developpement of so called side effect symptoms which many a time are a new expression of the main dynamic state. Adding these new symptoms to the set of original symptoms will thus help finding the correct homeopathic remedy required for the main complaint.
    It proves useful to bully somewhat the vital force in a way or another when you do not know where to begin from out of lack or too plentiness of symptoms. Then you treat homeopathically taking into account foremost the latest symptoms following the rule expressed by C.Hering that the most recent symptoms are the most important (in proving or clinics). If you give at this point the correct remedy and potency, it will work better. If the first encountered dynamic state is of a superficial character (i.e. medecinal disease) it may vanish within days or weeks, but the vital force being so revived , a new group of symptom will soon appear clear-cutly which this time may be those of a THE dynamic state of a deep character which will actually cure the pathology.
    This is a general assertion and not an advice in your particular case.
    Regards,
Michel Ramillon (France) 
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Hi Rudolph and welcome.
I, too, have been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid issue and am under the care of a homeopath.  My treatment only started about a month ago, so it's early days yet but I'm hoping it'll be successful.  She seems to be a good homeopath and so I'm confident.  I suppose I was lucky enough that when I went to the doctor's for a diagnosis the readings came back that I was very low on the thyroid count and also on Vit.D but none of it was serious although he did want to speak to me to discuss options.  That's when he prescribed Thyroxine.  Thankfully I haven't started using it and certainly don't intend to.  I know I've had the condition for nearly two years.  I would have thought that as your girlfriend has only just started taking thyroxine and provided she finds herself a good homeopath, then I would have thought it won't be too late for her to come off thyroxine.
Christine
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:38 pm
				by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
				In addition to diatomaceous earth, boric acid powder can be used in an enclosed space to get rid of fleas.  It dries them out, isn't toxic (as far as I know) to mammals.
Rosemary
			 
			
					
				Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs
				Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:12 pm
				by healthinfo6
				Shannon,
Do you have a brand rec for Diatomaceous earth?  I've read it works better than betonite clay for detox use and may not contain aluminum, as bent clay can.  Can't find it at Whole Foods, other stores.
Tx!
Susan
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