Remedy-making machines-oooops

Leilanae · Post by **Leilanae** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:50 am

Oooooops, here's the link:

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/09/04/the ... s-on-salt/

Post by **Soroush Ebrahimi** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:21 am

I think this is NOT the effect of sound waves on salt.
Any powder would have done!
It is the effect of range of frequencies on the material that is vibrating! Effectively what you see is the vibrational patterns set off on the board the salt is poured on.
Rgds
Soroush

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Oooooops, here's the link:

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/09/04/the ... s-on-salt/
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Leilanae · Post by **Leilanae** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:15 pm

Hi Soroush,
Like Sac lac? And if so, would it have the imprint of the frequency?
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Gabriele Sielmann · Post by **Gabriele Sielmann** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:00 pm

I'm not Soroush,
but you can do it also with (sea)sand, quartz...
Depending on the sound you get different pattern.
If you give a second vibration on the board, you can vary the pattern.
So as the salt was varied by changing the amplitude / pitch (the sound became higher and higher, i dont know the exact expression because i'd studied in my mothers language).
Nevertheless it is interesting in view up our potencies / remedies - offcourse.
Is it our arm which gives the kinetic power? Depends it on the numbers of impacts? How important is the medium it's dissolved in? Is it possible to transfer this power mindly? Or per electric energy?...
We see/hear/feal... only a little bit of the spectrum. With the technic revolution our knowlegde became better. But nevertheless - it is small, very small.
Therefore we can't messure, if anything is in our remedies. Our instruments ain't able to find out. But it's fascinating to see what happens when a special sound touches some sand or salt.
regards
Gisa
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Post by **Soroush Ebrahimi** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:37 pm

Before Jacque Beneviste had his lab in Paris taken away from him, he demonstrated an experiment which was shown on (BBC2?) TV in UK.
He had a rat's heart suspended and fed by drips from a solution and one could see the heart beating.
He then showed an electric/electronic device that had two pads - very much like a set of electronic scales.
He had a beaker on one of the pads (A).
He then took a sample from A by pipette and added it to the solution feeding the heart and the heart continued beating.
He then added an other beaker with a solution of 'cardiac poison' on the other pad (B)- took a similar sample from it and added it to the solution feeding the heart. The heart stopped beating.
They replace the set-up feeding the heart and added a fresh beating heart.
He then throw the switch on his apparatus on and then off. (It was ON for a couple of seconds if that!)
He then took a sample of the flask A and added it to the flask feeding the heart and the heart stopped again.
So somehow electronically he had managed to transfer the poisonous effects from flask B to flask A.
What actually happened, he did not explain.
Rgds
Soroush

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I'm not Soroush,
but you can do it also with (sea)sand, quartz...
Depending on the sound you get different pattern.
If you give a second vibration on the board, you can vary the pattern.
So as the salt was varied by changing the amplitude / pitch (the sound became higher and higher, i dont know the exact expression because i'd studied in my mothers language).
Nevertheless it is interesting in view up our potencies / remedies - offcourse.
Is it our arm which gives the kinetic power? Depends it on the numbers of impacts? How important is the medium it's dissolved in? Is it possible to transfer this power mindly? Or per electric energy?...
We see/hear/feal... only a little bit of the spectrum. With the technic revolution our knowlegde became better. But nevertheless - it is small, very small.
Therefore we can't messure, if anything is in our remedies. Our instruments ain't able to find out. But it's fascinating to see what happens when a special sound touches some sand or salt.
regards
Gisa
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Gabriele Sielmann · Post by **Gabriele Sielmann** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:10 pm

interesting (I couldn't see it), but had he an explanation?
regards
Gisa
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Shannon Nelson · Post by **Shannon Nelson** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:39 pm

Awfully interesting!! And after that they took his lab away. That's
"suggestive", huh?
I wonder (just for the heckuvit) whether he tried doing the same thing
without switching it on at all?
Shannon

Leilanae · Post by **Leilanae** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:07 pm

Hi Gisa,

When I saw the salt video I was reminded of the Emoto photos. https://www.hado.net/watercrystals/index.php

and was wondering if remedies could be photographed in this way.
Maybe we can "see" what instruments aren't measuring?

Leilanae

Gabriele Sielmann · Post by **Gabriele Sielmann** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:40 pm

We can see it - in each form of healing.
We can see water pictures, drops falling in water, snow cristals at the window and we can be enthusiastic for the beauty of nature. But beauty is not measurable.
What you see an that board with salt is measurable (oscillographic ?)
frequency and amplitude "translated" in physical norms.
We know that a rhythm of 60 makes happy, remembers "mama".
But there is IMO no instrument till now which can measure homeopathic effects.
Sorry
Gisa

Shannon Nelson · Post by **Shannon Nelson** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:56 pm

That is lovely!!!
But I agree with the remark somebody made, that it's not particularly
about salt, that any fine particles would act the same. I'd say the
pattern is simply determined by the vibratory qualities of the plate
that's holding the salt. (I'd think there would be different patterns
with plates of different substances and different thicknesses.) But,
it's very interesting to watch!!