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Affectation

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 10:32 am
by Lisa Barrett
As promised I will start with the AFFECTATION of Lyc and do the other two
remedies and then a final comparison.

All rubrics in Capitals

As we all know from our classical teachings fundamental to Lyc is a LACK OF
CONFIDENCE. Many rubrics stem from this one

Because Lyc Lacks Confidence it does not want to show it so he becomes ver
SECRETIVE . He feels he is inadequate at a deep level so he covers it up.
He does this by BOASTING. I am such a clever person I have this degree and
that qualification I am better than anyone else at what I do. Because he is
boasting he doesnt want anyone to disagree with him this makes him very
angry ANGER FROM CONTRADICTION. If anyone dares to do this he will BROOD on
it and become even angrier ANGER AT ABSENT PERSONS WHILE THINKING OF THEM.
He is very much the coward as we know COWARDICE so he is not brave enough to
stand up against those who he thinks are in possesion of more intelligence
or are more skilled than him HARD FOR INFERIORS KIND TO SUPERIORS. Those
who he thinks are inferior are those he identifies with and he doesnt like
it so he is CONTEMPTUOS to them, behaves as if POMPOUS, IMPORTANT. To those
who he sees as cleverer than him he feels envious,
ENVY AT THE QUALITIES OF OTHERS. At times when this situation arises he can
become DEFIANT and we see the opposite situation come in of INSOLENCE OF
SERVANTS TO CHIEF and RUDENESS OF EMPLOYEES TO CHIEFS. This situation tends
to occur when they have been found out that they are not so clever as they
have been pretending to be. Now they begin to feel HELPLESS and they become
DEFIANT.

So where does AFFECTATION come in for Lyc. Affectation is a pretense. So
what is this pretense in Lyc. It is the pretense that they are so clever so
knowledgeable. All the time using this pretense in the form of AFFECTATION
to cover up their weaknesses.

There are many other aspects to Lycopodium but the AFFECTATION is a strong
feature of their disease state.

I recently had a case of a child. He walked in and the first this he said
to me was.
"you know I am really clever dont you, I can make anything I am an inventor.
My first rubric was BOASTING. He went on to describe how he had built a
boat and a wall from bricks in the garden all the time this pretense or
AFFECTATION, when underneath his mother said he struggles to do his
schoolwork and wont do new things at school FEAR OF UNDERTAKING ANYTHING.
He would call other children stupid and idiots CONTEMPTUOUS and when
challenged by the teacher would become INSOLENT.
and RUDE. This is the point where he was found out. Whilst people were
thinking what a clever child he was and look how he can build things he was
polite but as soon as he felt he had been found out he became defensive.
Another interesting point was he walked around my room looking at things
picking them up and asking how does this work. The rubric is CURIOUS. Very
distinct from Desire for light.
Lisa Barrett

Re: Affectation

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:51 pm
by Lisa Newlin
(Sorry all about the two previous messages, my computer's got a mind of it's own today....What I wanted to say is: )

Thanks Lisa, this is well said.

Lisa Newlin
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Re: Affectation

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:04 pm
by Lisa Barrett
Dear Mary-anne,

You said:

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Re: Affectation

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:19 pm
by Allen Coniglio
Someone commented to Lisa:
and she replied:
with.

I would guess that the patient may more likely have a fear of incompetence
and is checking to see just what the practitioner is aiming to do. Why would
anyone want to put himself into the hands of a quack or other ill performing
medical bunko artist? I think all the questions that you have listed as
being asked by the patient are normal and should not arouse any sort of
suspicions and/or ideas regarding the patient's persona unless they were
intense, insistent and unreasonable. Just my opinion, of course.

Allen

Re: Affectation

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:53 pm
by Nancy Siciliana
If a patient has a fear of incompetence--his own--then that's one thing; if a patient has a fear of your incompetence as a practitioner, then he/she has an issue with trust.
Every patient has this issue, and is afraid of being betrayed by the practitioner, to some degree--but in some the trust issue is more remarkable than in others. I agree that in this hypothetical conversation between a practitioner and a patient on the phone, the patient would be giving you some cleanly uncompensated information about the remedy he or she would need.

Nancy

Re: Affectation

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:04 pm
by Lisa Barrett
Dear Chris,

your wrote:

<< I see all sorts of decisions being made from that initial phone-call

Exactly and each person will react from their own state.

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Re: Affectation

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:04 pm
by Lisa Barrett
Allen,

I think I answered your questions in the mail I sent to Chris.

What I would like to say is how pathological has a symptom got to be before
you can take it as part of the disease.

I know it is a difficult concept to understand I was asking exactly the same
questions when I started this method 6 years ago. How can we take common
symptoms of the patient and find a remedy that will help them in their
disease state. Well you can. I can only tell you this but I can also prove
it. We are having case taking in June with Sanjay Sehgal we are following
up on cases that were prescribed for in December 2001 and for anyone who is
interested come along and listen to the patients. We have got some good
pathological cases that we are following up. One of a child with cystic
fibrosis, a man with MS and a woman with RA. They are the patients of other
homoeopaths but I have been charting their progress since their prescription
in December and all are progressing nicely .

Anyone in the UK wanting to see for themselves can contact me and I will
hopefully be able to tell you the dates within the next month.

I am going away for a week now but would like to follow up on the question
of how pathological does a mental symptom have to be before you will take
it as a symptom, whats the measure.? I know my measure now perhaps others
could telll me theirs.

regards
Lisa Barrett

Re: Affectation

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:47 pm
by Rosemary Hyde
In general, my guideline is that if it's causing limitation and discomfort,
it's a very important symptom both to the patient as a target for healing
and to me as a crucial element in the case. Otherwise, if a mental state is
simply a given, without causing any major discomfort to the patient, it's
still useful as a confirmatory element -- one would not be likely, for
instance, to choose Veratrum Album for a chilly patient who was not agitated
in some way, or Arsenicum for a chilly patient who was not in some way
fastidious.

Rosemary C. Hyde

Re: Affectation

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:49 pm
by Rosemary Hyde
I'd be interested in someone defining "compensated" vs. "uncompensated."
These are terms I've not encountered previously in regard to homeopathy.

Thank you. Rosemary C. Hyde

Re: Affectation

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 12:03 am
by Allen Coniglio
Rosemary pretty much summed it up in her first line - limitation and
discomfort. Obviously, if these things are present in the patient's life,
they are things that have to be dealt with to bring him back to a state of
balance/health. Just asking the patient why he called will usually open up
the whole thing and keeping the answer to this question in mind throughout
the casetaking helps to keep me on track.

Allen