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Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:57 am
by jtikari
I often read or hear of homeopaths being cautioned to ensure that
wrong medication does not permanently spoil or turn the case
'incurable'. Wrong medication, I take to mean remedies that don't
fully fit the situation.
I look at that very skeptically. Matter of fact I ignore it.
Today, a large portion of the Indian public uses homeopathy.
And a large portion of them use over-the-counter patented meds.
These meds. can have 8-10 remedies in them with varing potencies
so they cover a large area of ailments...
And they work!
I can hardly 'thumb my nose' at something that works. All Indian
manufacturers make combi meds. - even Schwabe and Reckeweg.
So.......how does 'spoil-the-case' fit in?
Jeff Tikari

Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:16 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear JTikari
Many a case can be spoiled by the wrong remedy, change in remedy or sometimes even the too early repeat of the correct remedy.
Ask an old hand at homoeopathy and they will be able to give case story after case story.
Homoeopathy is clearly defined. It is the use of a potentised substance whose proving symptoms match closely those of the patient.
However, the use of potentised substances is not necessarily homoeopathy.
Any respectable homoeopath should recognise the differences among Cure, Palliation and Suppression. All of these are possible by the use of potentised substances. So the incorrect use of a potentised substance may lead to the inadvertent suppression. Such a suppression is then difficult to resolve.
The issue of combinations has been discussed on Minutus extensively in the past - however there are two main points:
1- If you give a number of remedies at once and there is improvement, how do you follow on? How do you know which remedy worked?
2- If you carry on using combo remedies you can either suppress or cause proving symptoms.
Symptoms are valuable signs that if correctly handled can prevent damage later. So you may suppress a particularly difficult symptom and the patient is 'happy' for the time being, but the corner stone for serious pathology has just be laid.
If I may give an analogy, it is like a car owner taking his car to a badly trained mechanic complaining that there is a bright red light on the dashboard and it is dazzling. Then the ignorant mechanic will say OK that is easy, I can take this bulb out (or cut the wire to it) and it won't bother you. And the simple patient is happy that he is not dazzled any more. But a few more miles later the owner is very upset that his engine has seized because of lack oil!

Regards

Soroush

Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:27 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Jeff,
It's myth! So it fits in with the multitude of other myths
surrounding homeopathy;-)

Regards

Luise
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So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:20 pm
by jtikari
Soroush,
Shall we take your anology a bit further.
The mechanic did not know how to proceed. So he used a combo remedy;
that is, he cleaned the contacts to the bulb; he cleaned the contact breaker
points; he cleaned the battery terminals; he filled the battery with distilled water;
he topped the oil in the differential; he topped the engine oil; he topped the brake
fluid, and serviced the car.
The car then ran perfectly.
That's what combo's do.
Jeff Tikari

Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:27 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
I like your analogy, in that situation our expert mechanic uses the remedy commonly known as the 'SERVICE'!
It takes the totality of the problems of the vehicle and recognises that this unit has been neglected for a while and needs a certain number of things doing to it, all of which are covered by the STANDARD service - which he prescribes.
When you prescribe for a human being based on the relevant totality of the presenting symptoms and according to the fine rules set by our Master Samuel Hahnemann - and prescribes the similimum for it. The vital force then starts repairing things in the proper order.
Just one remedy suffices.

Regards

Soroush
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Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:34 pm
by Paul Booyse
I agree.

regards,
paul

Re: Spoil The Case

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:02 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Jeff,
I do think that many of the cautions we are given--from Hahnemann and
from others--will be meaningful for some cases and situations, but not
for others. A reasonably strong vital force should, as a rule, simply
throw off or even fail to register a "wrong remedy". But if the person
is very weak, or very sensitive, or the dosing is sufficiently extreme,
then (I gather) wrong remedies, overdosing, etc., *can* become a
problem. But perhaps (I would think) those situations are not so
common, and *usually* you would quickly become aware that the patient
is being "overly affected" by incorrect remedies.

But I do feel ( :-) perhaps "in my innocence") that some people
overemphasize the risks. During my training, certain "influences" had
gotten me so anxious over those matters that I was just about terrified
to give anybody anything! And let's face it, you cannot learn to
practice *anything* unless you are willing to--yes, do your best, but
still--realize that there *will* be mistakes, and you *will* be able to
move forward from there. (And part of our training was also about
recognize which sorts of patients should *not* be part of our early
learning curve unless we had appropriate supervision. I do think
that's important to understand, too.)

Best wishes,
Shannon