Minutus

Edward Shalts, MD DHt, a NYC homeopathic doctor who states that genetic illness is incurable, http://www.homeopathynewyork.com/benefit.html will be speaking at the NCH conference in April. Since the NCH unofficially "represents" homeopathy in the USA, their invitation speaks highly of Dr. Shalts and his knowledge of classical homeopathy. He's on the same program as Andre Saine and Jeremy Sherr!
Andre Saine disputes the validity of LM potencies and the Organon 6th edition and doesn't use them in practice, which ignores a generally accepted update to classical homeopathy. This hasn't prevented him from speaking or teaching at NCH. Whether this advances homeopathy into Century 21 is another matter.
http://nationalcenterforhomeopathy.org/ ... fBro08.pdf

Hi,
(Is this Susan again, from yet another address?)
I did not see anything on Dr. Shalts' website that stated that "genetic
illness is incurable." Can you provide a quote of his to that effect?
I am interested to see what you are referring to.

Thanks,
Shannon

Who is Susan? What other email address?

I posted the link http://www.homeopathynewyork.com/benefit.html you need to read. If you have trouble, I can post the whole page text.

Hi healthinfo6,
I haven't read the entire website, but assume the comment you referred
to in alarm (that homeopathy cannot cure "genetic illnesses" ) would
have been on the introductory page?

There I read:
Some patients come to homeopaths because nothing else has helped.
These people view homeopathy as their last resort. If prescribed
correctly, a homeopathic remedy may significantly improve even a severe
chronic condition.

*everything* is "curable". This statement does communicate, however,
that even something which cannot be *cured*--eliminated, beyond need of
any further treatment, even homeopathic, in all its effects, for the
rest of the person's life--may indeed be significantly *helped* by
homeopathy. It's quite true that not everything is "curable".***]]]

I consider treatment of severe chronic long-lasting cases successful if
the patient is suffering significantly less with a noticeably improved
quality of life and sometimes a significant decrease in a number and
the amount of medications she or he has to take.

already passed beyond the point where they can be completely
eliminated. Is this perhaps what you are referring to? If so, it is
certainly no secret and no shame--is there ANY person or method that
can make a complete cure for every person and every condition? Answer:
Not according to anything I've ever heard!***]]]

Are those the quotes you were troubled by, or is there something else
that I missed?

Perhaps the trouble you are having is in realizing the difference
between "cure"--which is of course our ultimate goal, but not always
attainable. Let me now if I've missed something more to-the-point.

Shannon

PS--One reason that I found the assertion about "genetic illness"
puzzling is that it's an undefined term--what--about either disease or
health--*isn't* genetic in part? It's a matter of degree, rather than
a black-and-white thing.

Another reason I find it puzzling is that some diseases that have been
considered "genetic" *have* been cured by homeopathy, and Dr. Shaltz
certainly knows this. The only one I can reference off the top of my
head is a case I posted recently (from contemporary printed literature)
about homeopathic cure of megacolon--Hirschsprung's disease, I think it
is called.

Let me know if you would like me to re-post that, and if that example
would, in your understanding, address the point.

Best wishes,
Shannon

I have read this. YOU have added the
"like diabetes, breast cancer, Alzheimers,

bit to his statement about genetically predetermined illnesses
Paul
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Shannon,
Until recently, it was assumed that genes were pretty much fixed
entities - that you either inherited them or not, bnut that hey did
not change during one's lifetime. That assumption leads to the idea
that if you inherited it you are stuck with it.

However it has very recently been shown in genetics research that the
assumption is wrong. In fact our genes can and do change during our
lifetime! We have more kinds of genes than are commonly realized -
for example we have genes that can hide physically behind structures
in the chromosome, where they are inactive - and which can be made
to come out of hiding and go into action. Likewise genes that are
active can be caused to "go hide" and become inactive. It is even
more complex than that. We have "operator genes" which can switch
other genes on and off, and the operator genes can be hidden or
exposed depending on environmental conditions.
Makes sense - especially if the gene is physically there and inactive
or vice versaq, the gene is active but should not be.
Eventually - as in this case - science will explain homeopathy:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Most about one's health is genetically predetermined. In this case,
for the sake of discussion, let's say those illnesses that have a
specific gene identified, whose presence can be determined by genetic
testing and assigned a percentage chance of that illness occuring
would be a valid definition of genetically predetermined illness. An
illness that seems to appear on schedule or is present at birth.

So, breast cancer has some specific genes that can be tested for.
There are women who choose to have voluntary mastectomies because of
their family history of breast cancer and genetic tests show they
have a higher than normal % chance of developing breast cancer.

Other illness like Lou Gehrig's disease is shown to have an almost
100% of occuring in those with that gene mutation. Hemophilia and
Tay-Sachs are two others. There are certain genetic tests done on
all newborns in the USA, one is for hemochromatosis, where too much
iron accumulates, another is phenylketonuria. That is why all
products with the artifical sweetener, aspartame, carries a warning
label that phenylalanine is present in the product. These are
genetic abnormalities that, once known, are not cured but avoided by
not consuming causative agents, here iron and phenylalanine. Mental
retardation is genetically tested for in the womb. Whether one
decides to abort or not is a personal decision.

Diabetes type 2 is genetically inherited but can be positively
affected by diet, exercise, etc. It runs in families and usually
appears in one's 40s. While there is a more recent explosion of it
in younger people, mostly blamed on bad diet and lack of exercise, I
don't think
these are the reasons. Children ate junk food for decades and have
more exercise choices today. Possibly, switching from refined white
sugar, sucrose to HFCS, high fructose corn syrup in most food
products which is said to be exponentially sweeter than sugar. Thus,
people are stressing their blood glucose system more today at a
younger age than in the past. Still, not everyone who eats this way
gets diabetes nor does every obese, sedentary, junk food eater. It
depends on your genetic predisposition.

How do you propose homeopathy cure an impending illness that either
has no prior symptoms or won't have any until later life?
Constitutional treatment sounds reasonable, but can it stop a ticking
time bomb from exploding?

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Booyse" wrote:
Shalts!
you need to read. If you have trouble, I can post the whole page
text.
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2008/03/19 09:54 AM

I think that "predetermined" is a bit strong...
It's genetically *influenced*, of course, but for most people's health,
the genetic influence is only the start.
Would Hirschsprung's (megacolon) be an example? It's evidently
congenital, present from birth. I don't know if there's an associated
gene, tho.

Autism is considered to have a genetic component, with several genes
identified as being involved--tho they do talk in terms of
"susceptibility", not in terms of determination. Autism can certainly
be cured by homeopathy. (By which I mean to say not that *every* case
can be, because that I don't know; but certainly numerous cases *have*
been.) So that's an example of a genetically influenced disease that
*is* curable by homeopathy.
And has certainly been cured by homeopathy.
Yep. Some people attribute it to e.g. high-fructose corn syrup (said
to bypass the brain's satiety center), aspartame (said that the sweet
taste without the carbs programs the body to eat more). Inadequate
nutrition can contribute too, as lacks of various trace minerals impair
the body's ability to regulate blood sugar, which means that hunger is
not kept effectively in line with caloric need. Trace mineral
deficiencies are increasing as result of more processed foods, and also
declining quality of soils, and perhaps other factors.
Yes, and also your parents' nutritional status, and your mother's
dietary habits during pregnancy, and your own dietary intake since
then. Also presumably on environmental and emotional and social and
etc. factors, acting in concert with genetic predisposition.

Balancing the mind-body system and avoid many problems.
Homeopathy is only one of the numerous possible ways to do this.
"[Curing] an impending illness that ... has no prior symptoms or won't
have any until later life"--that can be done by homeopathy sure, but
also by improvements in diet and lifestyle; internal cleansing;
meditation; yoga... *Everything* which has a healing, nurturing,
supportive, cleansing, etc., effect, is *contributing* to exactly that
process. Whether it's sufficient to provide any particular person with
perfect health is a different matter. But every time we trade a bad
habit for a good one, we are on the path of curing impending illnesses!
Many times, yes.
But how could one "prove" that, absent one of those yet-to-be-invented
"alternative reality generators"?
Shannon

Oh wow - no that's not true at all!

Certain predispositions can be genetically present. But even having
the gene to predispose something has been proven to not necessarily
create the condition - it's one factor - and others are needed for
the condition to occur.
Some genes are "major genes" and are in most cases (but not all)
either present or absent. But the great majoprity of genes are
polygenes and can be partial penetrance, or hidden or subject to
operator genes or subject to environmental factors, and the like.

So we do inherit a constitutional type and it has predispositions but
there is no guarantee the predisposed health issues will occur.

Certain diseases also have associated genes. For example there are at
least thirteen different genes associated with schizophrenia. Hence
it "runs in families" - however an individual may have all 13 of the
genes and not have the illness. The genes show predisposition - not
illness certainty.
A predisposition only - not a predictable iillness.
Someone with the gene may well get ill if they do not act to prevent it.
Scaremongering from the allopathic community is at an all-time high.
Disgusting!
They should be advocating how to avoid breast cancer despite a
genetic predisposition but they probably do not know enough about
nutrition to try and they make MUCH more money with a double
mastectomy - there is no thought to best interests of the patient.

A FEW rare diseases have a high incidence with genetic predisposition
- but to say "most about one's health is genetically predetermined"
is very far from accurate.
Oh no - it is genetically predisposed. Nobody needs to get it. The
other factors required to trigger it are things like following that
ridiculous food pyramid that the allopaths put out.
You don't need the gene to get it either. Just eat badly enough to
mess up your pancreas, or get a catabolic illness that does it for you.
I have several cats in my files who USED to have diabetes.
Homeopathy has no need to cure what is not there and need not become
there. How you cure diabetes when there is only a predisposition is
to give the person a book to read on how to prevent it.(Dr
Bernstein's Diabetes Solution.)
It can't hurt. And diabetes is no time bomb, it is EASY to prevent
with a sensible diet.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."