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beyondhom [hpe] Pathogen ponos pathos and miasm

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:07 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Nader,
I re-read it, and I consider the paragraphs copied below to be the
practically relevant:

22. If there are no shared remedies in the individualization result
and the antimiasmatic list and the result of the individualization
ranks high, the prescription should be based on the result of
individualization and the remedy should be considered as a possible
undefined miasmatic remedy.
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Luise's comment:
The last sentence seems to be important.

What I mean: if we are supposed to do the individualization of the
pathos = present state to start with: if a very high-ranking simile
comes up, we'll probably give it without recourse to the M_V anyhow.
Most homeopaths swerve from the path they are used to only if the
simillimum is very uncertain or after they have tried a goodish amount
of different apparent simillimums without their doing much good. (from
my experience from reading between the lines on many lists for many
years and doing the same in many articles and books I feel free to
claim as certainty that there are more results of that kind, by the
best and prestigious homeopaths as well as us "mediocrous" than most
of us realize.)
Ardavan's Article:

23. If there are no shared remedies in the individualization result
and the antimiasmatic list and there are no high rank remedies in the
individualization result to be confidently prescribed, the first high
rank remedies of the antimiasmatic group should be considered and
prescription should be based on one of these remedies which seems much
more suitable according to clinical experience, constitutional
features, etc. The remedy prescribed according to this condition is
either the simillimum or a close partial simillimum. If it is a
partial simillimum, it will induce accessory symptoms as the guide for
later evaluation of the case. In this case, the above procedure should
be repeated.
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Luise:

Please Ardavan, put these paragraphss on top of your article.

I am really trained and used to reading carefully and completely. But
when first I read 15 paragraphs on theory, which I really no longer
need, I do not expect practical instructions to come at § 23. So I
stoppen reading some paragraphs before - and I missed the to me
most important part;-(

(Even Hahnemann started his practical instructions pretty much in the
beginning, at least of his Organon - and I wonder how many homeopaths
never got as far as his practical instructions in the Psora part of
the CD, where he did put all the theory up front:-)

Or, if you think the first 22 paragraphs should caome first, just
tell the reader up front that for practical instructions on "how to
use the M_V" to turn to § 23:-)

And put it up front in the M_V.

24. If there are no indicators to choose between the higher
antimiasmatic remedies, the first antimiasmatic remedy should be
prescribed (For example, Thuj for HPV, Merc for HSV-2, Gels for PLV,
Nit-ac for EBV, Phos for DHF,?) This remedy is again either the
simillimum or the partial simillimum.
#
24. If there are two or more shared remedies, the above comparisons
should be done for each remedy and the best ranking should be
considered.

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Thank you, Nader, for kicking me to re-read and this time to the
end.

And again: Please be assured that I mean the above in the spirit of
constructive criticism for one - but also as an attempt to get a
discussion going (I hope you do not mind my extending it to minutus)

Regards

Luise

--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: beyondhom [hpe] Pathogen ponos pathos and miasm

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:46 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Nader,
I'll copy-type from Phatak's MM the sx that apply to the patient, caps
from Phatak. Some remarks of mine in [..] Btw: It's not all
active state - some of the symptoms are from the history.

Generalities:

This metal irritates the skin, affect THE SPINAL column, ears and
eyes; produced neuralgic pain, notably sciatica. DISCHARGES are
ACRID, excites itching, mucus from throat,
soreness. NUMBNESS. Periosteitis. Ill effects of spinal
injury, fall.

Worse:

TOUCH. cold. Empty swallowing. Spinal
injuries. Cold weather. Stooping. (Laughing [only applies
to cough] Coughing.

Mind:

Fear of being touched in sensitive place. Neglectful and forgetful.
Ears:

Hearing impaired from injury to membrana tympani. Otorrhea
Itching, swelling, in meatus.
Nose:

Fluent coryza with lacrimation and hoarseness
from posterior nares. [this is when coryza is acute, otherwise for
some years now and several times before: dry, paroxysmal cough from
post-nasal discharge]
Throat:

Sore on empty swallowing > after eating or drinking [most of the time
only sligh, but present]
Abdomen:

Pinching. Flatus stinking, offensive [but rare]. Itching of anus and
perineum (after every stool) [often after stool]

Respiratory:

Cough causes pain
in the small of back. [not always].
Bubbling in lungs [mostly when coughing] (R)
Neck and back:

PAINFUL SENSITIVENESS OF SPINE from
last cervical to fifth dorsal. Pain in sacrum passing into (right)
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