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Gemmotherapy and drainage, was Laurocerasus - rapid small motion aggravation

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:18 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Not exactly.
They are herbal remedies from buds and a technique on its own if so chosen. Two galenics (pharmaceutical presentations) exist: the concentrated solution and the 1X (1D) potency, both having exactly the same indications, which are clinical; the gemmotherapic repertory is clinical or rather physiopathologic with the use of clinical labels when useful.
Like anything else, they can be used for the purpose of drainage; the choice of remedy is made according to which organs need the drainage, the need for previous and/or simultaneous repair, the detoxification involved, the state of health of the patient, etc,.....
My apologies if this sound like a pre-sales pitch, but it is clearly explained in that future book, with all types of organotherapy, drainage and detoxification procedures explained (nutritional, herbal, homeopathic, homeobotanical, osteopathic, oligotherapic, lithotherapic and gemmotherapic) and their relations to homeopathy. That is 3-400 pages which I cannot summarize here in a few lines.........just that "drainage" as I hear around me is a vague concept that everyone practices differently, often in a limited way, whereas it is a very precise and individualized technique compatible with every other branch of medicine.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
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Re: Gemmotherapy and drainage, was Laurocerasus - rapid small motion aggravation

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:19 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Dr. Roz,
I think that something that sounds sort of like homeopathy needs to be differentiated clearly. I know that you differentiate, but I am just saying this because the difference is relevant to the purposes of Minutus and not a book sales pitch. Although what you say makes me interested in the book.
Our homepathic rep is based on provings (ideally not totally in reality) and you are saying that provings are not the basis of Gemmotherapy. Our homeopathic rep uses clinical, poisoning herbal etc information as well. Not only provings. But proving are our gold standard. Gemmotherapy (or any of those other drainage therapies that you mentioned) uses clinical evidence only? Yes?
By saying the Gemmotherapy rep is not based on pathophysiology, you mean that you do not select remedies based on disease name or cause. But you must be thinking of pathophysiology when you predict what will be detoxified from a given organ and what results (eg., discharge etc) you would expect.
I take it they come in liquid tinctures and dosage is the number of drops and frequency. Herbal tinctures are not like remedies because they can expected to keep over generations. I really don't know how long they keep, but they have a much more limited shelf life, I would think. IX means you are using relative gross amounts and you don't succusset?
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
Not exactly.
They are herbal remedies from buds and a technique on its own if so chosen. Two galenics (pharmaceutical presentations) exist: the concentrated solution and the 1X (1D) potency, both having exactly the same indications, which are clinical; the gemmotherapic repertory is clinical or rather physiopathologic with the use of clinical labels when useful.
Like anything else, they can be used for the purpose of drainage; the choice of remedy is made according to which organs need the drainage, the need for previous and/or simultaneous repair, the detoxification involved, the state of health of the patient, etc,.....
My apologies if this sound like a pre-sales pitch, but it is clearly explained in that future book, with all types of organotherapy, drainage and detoxification procedures explained (nutritional, herbal, homeopathic, homeobotanical, osteopathic, oligotherapic, lithotherapic and gemmotherapic) and their relations to homeopathy. That is 3-400 pages which I cannot summarize here in a few lines.........just that "drainage" as I hear around me is a vague concept that everyone practices differently, often in a limited way, whereas it is a very precise and individualized technique compatible with every other branch of medicine.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.

Re: Gemmotherapy and drainage, was Laurocerasus - rapid small motion aggravation

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:58 pm
by medmidas
I feel it is desirable to trim the posts.
This post was 323KB unnecessarily.
May be I am wrong thinking this way.
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Ellen Madono wrote:

Re: Gemmotherapy and drainage, was Laurocerasus - rapid small motion aggravation

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:42 pm
by Shannon Nelson
You're very right; it's just hard to remember!
Esp. for the sake of anyone trying to read the "daily digest".
Thanks for the reminder.

Re: Gemmotherapy and drainage, was Laurocerasus - rapid small motion aggravation

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:53 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
I wrote :"the gemmotherapic repertory is clinical or rather physiopathologic with the use of clinical labels when useful"
Where is it that I wrote it is NOT based on pathophysiology?
It is called Gemmotherapy, not Homeopathy, no confusion possible. And I clearly mentioned that it was related to Herbal medicine even though one of the delivery methods uses one degree of potentisation.
Please tell me what is not clear here? You asked, I answered, period.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.