The Enemies of Reason (Channel 4) + The Guardian Forum
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:57 am
Hi everyone
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Walach, Köster, Henning and Haag:
The effects of homeopathic belladonna 30CH in healthy volunteers -- a randomized, double-blind experiment, J Psychosom Res. 2001 Mar;50(3):155-60,
Vickers, van Haselen and Heger:
Can homeopathically prepared mercury cause symptoms in healthy volunteers? A randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled trial,
J Altern Complement Med. 2001 Apr;7(2):141-8,
Brien, Lewith and Bryant:
Ultramolecular homeopathy has no observable clinical effects.
A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled proving trial of Belladonna 30C, Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2003 Nov;56(5):562-8
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The above studies may be available at Glasgow Hom Library - I will contact them later today.
A lot of experiments are done with potentised substances but they are so STUPID in design that it is no wonder that they do work. Like the study on Arnica before and afar some surgical procedure - they gave arnica for 10 days prior to the procedure.
[One good check for Arnica, is after plastic surgery and to then to get another surgeon to age the surgery - ie how many days post op in case where arnica has been given and where it has not.]
I wrote to the Prof and asked him who was their homoeopath advisor and of course he did not reply.
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As you saw, I challenged anyone who says highly diluted but potentised substances do not have any power to take part in a 're-proving'.
No one has volunteered, because they all know that their guru Dr Ben Goldacre chickened out - for "fear of painful symptoms"! Oh yes placebo can not only cure, but it can produce painful symptoms. So guys be careful of that sugar you put in your coffee.
In any case, As you saw Dr Qadeer Qayoom has the same idea! In fact he mentions the remedies I had planned to use! What I now want to do is to draw up a protocol for this re-proving and of course cover, ethical, medical and legal aspects.
So PLEASE if this has sparked any thoughts or ideas please let me have it either here or direct to me finrod@webstar.co.uk I would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soroush
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Walach, Köster, Henning and Haag:
The effects of homeopathic belladonna 30CH in healthy volunteers -- a randomized, double-blind experiment, J Psychosom Res. 2001 Mar;50(3):155-60,
Vickers, van Haselen and Heger:
Can homeopathically prepared mercury cause symptoms in healthy volunteers? A randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled trial,
J Altern Complement Med. 2001 Apr;7(2):141-8,
Brien, Lewith and Bryant:
Ultramolecular homeopathy has no observable clinical effects.
A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled proving trial of Belladonna 30C, Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2003 Nov;56(5):562-8
=============
The above studies may be available at Glasgow Hom Library - I will contact them later today.
A lot of experiments are done with potentised substances but they are so STUPID in design that it is no wonder that they do work. Like the study on Arnica before and afar some surgical procedure - they gave arnica for 10 days prior to the procedure.
[One good check for Arnica, is after plastic surgery and to then to get another surgeon to age the surgery - ie how many days post op in case where arnica has been given and where it has not.]
I wrote to the Prof and asked him who was their homoeopath advisor and of course he did not reply.
====
As you saw, I challenged anyone who says highly diluted but potentised substances do not have any power to take part in a 're-proving'.
No one has volunteered, because they all know that their guru Dr Ben Goldacre chickened out - for "fear of painful symptoms"! Oh yes placebo can not only cure, but it can produce painful symptoms. So guys be careful of that sugar you put in your coffee.
In any case, As you saw Dr Qadeer Qayoom has the same idea! In fact he mentions the remedies I had planned to use! What I now want to do is to draw up a protocol for this re-proving and of course cover, ethical, medical and legal aspects.
So PLEASE if this has sparked any thoughts or ideas please let me have it either here or direct to me finrod@webstar.co.uk I would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soroush