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fibroids, pregnancy and progesterone

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:47 am
by Ananda Ruchira
hi all,

a fibroids patient that has been under treatment for about 4 months, returned to me with the happy news that the fibroid has shrunken slightly - 3.2cm from 3.7

I was prescribing sepia alternating with conium

...And that she's pregnant, 6 weeks! All very good as it goes since that was one of her goals.

however she's spotting.

Her allopath gyn. "guessed" that the reason for the spotting was the fibroid and that at this critical time (6 weeks) the fetus/placenta is still "looking" for a place to settle, maybe in the same place as the fibroid. He prescribed progesterin - as he explained- to lower the estrogen level in order to control the bleeding and help the placenta along its way.

I need guidance.

1. Does anyone have view about the progesterin? Safe or not in pregnancy? the Internet is divided in its opinion.

2. anyone's experience or advice in treating fibroids simultaneous to pregancy?
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Re: fibroids, pregnancy and progesterone

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:10 pm
by Bill Giman
Hi,

Consider looking into thyroid functioning for this patient, since uterine fibroids can come from a mal-functioning thyroid.

However, both Sepia and Conium are thyroid remedies. Is it possible one or both are suppressing the thyroid?

Check the patient for thyroid symptoms, like, cold hands/feet, excessive hunger, craving for sweets, etc.

Since she is pregnant, suggest foods that are good for thyroid: chicken, fish, molasses, parsley, apricots, dates and prunes, asparagus, spinach, turnip greens, squash, mushrooms, lima beans.

Avoid foods, like: broccoli, cauliflower, other cabbage foods, and avoid flouride products like: tap water, flouridated toothpaste.

Salts of iodine, like potassium or sodium iodide or kelp are difficult for the body to use and may even irritate the thyroid.

Thyroid helpers are: selenium (brown rice, green leafy vegs, meats, celery, eggs,), manganese(avocados,brown rice, egg yolks, green leafy vegs, walnuts), guggul, & ashwagandha.

Regards,
Bill G.

Re: fibroids, pregnancy and progesterone

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:36 am
by Vera Resnick
Hi,
What's the background connecting uterine fibroids to mal-functioning thyroid?
Thanks,
Vera

Re: fibroids, pregnancy and progesterone

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:55 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Bill,
If Sepia and conium are thyroid remedies, I would expect them to
stimulate the thyroid. Why would the opposite occur? I have had
trouble with Sepia before where the thyroid was hypo. The condition
seemed to get worse, ie further suppression was occurring. How would
you know that a particular remedy would suppress as opposed to
stimulate?
Thanks,
Ellen