Minutus

I read this case in the Homoeopath in the early 90's.
Child has been suffering from seizures since 10 days old. About 10 months old - still breast-feeding.
Mother is a Belgian politician.
Takes the child to many people, allopaths and homeopaths in Europe, UK and USA all to no avail.
Then goes to see a lady homeopath in Holland.
The Hom takes the case of the child but says that she want to see the child when it is having a seizure and requests the mum to have the child videoed during the seizure.
A few days later a video is received through the post.
It shows the mum COMPLETELY NAKED holding the baby in the middle of the night with the baby (now about 10 months old if I am not mistaken) have convulsions.
Then she hears another woman say words to the effect "Put him to your beautiful breasts."
She calls the mum and asks her to come for another meeting.
Is this the same partner that you had when you got pregnant? NO
How did you become pregnant? I ASKED A MALE FRIEND TO MAKE ME PREGNANT.
What was the reaction of your partner at the time? SHE WAS VERY UPSET - WE QUARRELLED AND SHE LEFT ME. THIS UPSET ME.
etc etc
Noting the 'unusual' situation that she had had herself videoed without any clothing (Naked desires to be) and other rubric she chose Hyos for the mum and gave her one dose of it.
A couple of weeks later the mum had reported that the baby had not had any convulsions.
So the disease of the baby was part of the disease of the mum.
Regards

Soroush

So, is that case taker saying that the mother should have thrown some clothes on in the middle of the night, before she ran to her convulsing child – even though the therapist had asked for a picture of the baby having the convulsion --- and this means she doesn’t mind being seen naked?
Hmmmmm
The Hom takes the case of the child but says that she want to see the child when it is having a seizure and requests the mum to have the child videoed during the seizure.
A few days later a video is received through the post.
It shows the mum COMPLETELY NAKED holding the baby in the middle of the night with the baby (now about 10 months old if I am not mistaken) have convulsions.

That didn’t quite come out the way I meant it J
I guess what I am saying is that the description of the naked mother holding her convulsing child does not mean the mother is immodest or likes to be seen naked. The film was for her health therapist, not for public viewing by anyone.

I think that is a streeeeeeeetch in prescribing.
And if giving the mother Hyos helped the baby that is fine, but it may have been the hyos convulsion component that helped the baby inadvertently. By giving it to the mother, it was being given to the baby in the breast milk anyway. So, it may have just been coincidence and did not have anything to do with the mother’s state.
I would have preferred to have seen a prescription based on something a little more logical than that.
Robyn
So, is that case taker saying that the mother should have thrown some clothes on in the middle of the night, before she ran to her convulsing child – even though the therapist had asked for a picture of the baby having the convulsion --- and this means she doesn’t mind being seen naked?
Hmmmmm

Dear Robyn
Hey don't forget this goes back to some 15-17 years ago and I am getting old! So not all the details are there.
I think the notion is that most women - irrespective of the situation - are innately modest. As you rush to the child there is nothing to stop her to grab a robe or something on her way. I have checked this with some ladies and the answer is that most would cover themselves.

Regards

Soroush

I also remember reading this one years back. At the time my first
reaction was similar to Robyn's, but there were also further reasons
given for why Hyos was given--to do with off-camera remarks by the
partner, and tone of voice, basically coming down to one of those
elusive but often crucial impressions, that there was an Hyos-like
oddness to the situation.

It was more fully explained in the original article. One could still
argue with those observations and I do not remember how long a
follow-up was given, but I have read a fair number of other cases too,
where remedy for the infant/young child could not be arrived at from
the child's symptoms alone, but was found by adding in the mother's
case.
Shannon

Hi Robyn,

this is exactly what I thought when I read the post!

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Hi Soroush,
I think it rather often happens this way. I've a number of times where
the homeopath could not work out the remedy that a baby (or even
somewhat older child) needed, until taking the mother's case, and same
remedy worked for both.

But I don't think that's always the case; when I (per instructions of
our family homeopath) gave remedies this way to my own, I only remember
one instance (out of a half dozen or so) where the remedy was curative
for me, as well as for my nursling. (But I also did not see any
instances where I was *disturbed* by a remedy I took for her that was
not indicated for me, nor she by one that I took for myself.)
Shannon

Finrod wrote:

Whose notion?
Mother's instinct to do what is best for her child, will in most cases
override anything else... especially one who finds it normal to sleep
nude - as many women do.
How valid is your 'survey', normal varies a lot!!!
How many of your survey sleep nude AND have dealt with a deathly ill
baby they did not know how to help?
(Those would need to be minimum criteria for your survey participants.)

A good friend of mine (a woman) used to say:
"If they have seen it before, it's no big deal, and if they have not
seen it before, it's high time they did."

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

It wasn't the sole factor that the choice was based on.
But personally, I'd have at least asked my partner to at *some* point
bring a robe, rather than stand by making remarks about my "beautiful
breasts", sweet tho that may be!

As I remember, it was the overall "feel" of the situation, based on
several factors and their context, that swayed the prescriber, rather
than any single factor.
Shannon

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

I did not see/read the whole - but yes, I'd agree there ))
..Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."