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Dear Soroush and friends,
I have known Dr. Peter Fisher for almost 30 years, and I consider him to
be one of the most knowledgeable and articulate speakers on homeopathic
research. He knows what has and hasn't been proven, and he knows the
cutting edge theories about explaining homeopathy in a modern, scientific
langued. Dr. Fisher keynoted the NCH conference in 2005 in San Jose, and he
was one of three speakers (along with Iris Bell, MD, PhD, and me) to give a
day-long workshop on homeopathic research. He was very well-received
(according to the feedback forms).
I have heard you, Soroush, diss him several times over the past year,
and I can only say that I (and most homeopaths that I know and respect)
disagree with you.
I also must say that we homeopaths have a strong tendency to diss each
other. Although we may each have different opinions and different
strategies for practicing homeopathy or for promoting homeopathy, I hope
that we can still RESPECT each other and our differences. It is time to
stop blaming ourselves for why homeopathy isn't more popular. The "blame"
can be spread around to ALL of us and to the skeptics. But let us move
beyond the blame-game, and let's move to pro-active action.
My latest ACTION was to write the book, The Homeopathic Revolution: Why
Famous People and Cultural Heroes Choose Homeopathy
(www.HomeopathicRevolution.com). This is one of the few books on homeopathy
that can speak to skeptics and can speak to people new to homeopathy. It is
also beginning to get some major media attention (I was interviewed last
week by Dr. Dean Edell on a national radio program, and next month, I'll be
on the "Oprah and Friends" radio networked where I'll be interviewed by
Mehmet Oz, MD, who is Oprah's favorite doctor). There are a zillion other
media developments that are bubbling up as a result of this book, and I hope
that you all can use it to create more public attention to our favorite
subject.
If anyone out there has some media connections, please consider letting
me about them.
Dana Ullman, MPH
Homeopathic Educational Services
2124 Kittredge St.
Berkeley, CA. 94704
(510)649-0294
(800)359-9051 (orders only in the U.S.)
(510)649-1955 (fax)
dullman@igc.org OR dana@homeopathic.com
http://www.homeopathic.com

Dear Dana,

It was nice meeting you in Ireland

Is Dr Peter Fisher the Queens personal Homeopath?

ATB
Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Dear Dana

I hear what you say - but may be when he is in the company of homoeopaths,
he is better.

I do not doubt his Homoeopathic knowledge - especially if you say so too.

I am not in the habit of dissing people. I try to show the highest respect
to all. But when someone is failing in their job, I think it is only
correct to say so. Colleagues - especially those on Minutus will perhaps
attest to this.

First he seems to show no respect for Homoeopaths who have not been to Med
School. This is why the Faculty of Homeopathy has such a poor relationship
with the Society of Homeopaths.

Some 12 years ago he came to our local group in Essex and I was not
impressed by his performance.

Then last year (November) at the meeting/debate on Homoeopathy at the
Natural History Museum in London when he was debating against Dr Ben
Goldacre (A Lachasis in my estimation) who is a strongly anti Homoeopathy.
If it had not been for active support and challenge to the other side by my
colleagues and myself he would have lost the evening and do you know what -
he did not have the grace to come over for a quick word to acknowledge the
support he received or even say thanks.

He failed at this meeting because he had not evaluated his opponent and had
not analysed strong and week points of each side. Ben is an expert at
statistics. Unless you are sure of your statistics, you do not challenge
someone like that! Peter did and failed!
Francis Treuherz was there too - if you know him call him and ask him what
happened at that meeting.

The management of RLHH is a difficult task. That I know. In that role, he
needs to be media wise, but he does such a poor show of it.

A few years back in UK there in a series of programmes on national TV where
they were investigating different aspects of alternative medicine.
I mean fancy having a chance of dealing with a case that is going to be
broadcast on national TV and making an absolute hash of it.

The patient was a child with severe eczema and after a few minutes the kid
is prescribed Graph. I could not for the life of me justify Graph for that
kid and subsequently there was very little change.
Why did he not put his best homoeopath on the case and if he did, then RLHH
should be closed.

Then a couple of weeks ago there was another short story on RLHH on BBC1 (
London) - the main thing that I remember about is that oh yes - they do
acupuncture too. Perhaps it was the programme editor's fault - but it did
not put RLHH in good light.

May be my expectations are high Dana, but when we have crocodiles chasing
after us, we do not want any one to break the dam wall and let more water
in!

If he is your friend, then perhaps you can have a word in his ear!

I appreciate your comments - and if you EVER think I am doing something that
is not right, PLEASE do bring it to my attention - That is what friends are
for, and that is how we achieve improvements.

With highest regards and I wish all the best when you are with Oprah. Pls
give us the timings.

Soroush

Soroush,
You say that you don't like to diss people, but there you go again.
You critique how Dr. Peter Fisher has been reported in the media, and yet,
you seem to forget how EDITING can make someone look great or awful. But to
me, what is strange about your reporting is that you acknowledged that the
media edits what it shows, and yet, you still go on the offensive. You even
say that maybe the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital should be closed just
because one prescription of someone's skin problem with homeopathic Graphite
wasn't YOUR prescription (jeez).
Just today I finally got around to hearing the debate that he had with
Ben Goldacre (available at: http://www.badscience.net/?p=339), and I was
VERY impressed with Dr. Peter Fisher's presentation. It is interesting to
note that Ben Goldacre's site notes that it was the audience's contribution
that were embarrassing to homeopathy, not Dr. Fisher's presentation.
Although I don't agree with Goldacre here (because I thought that the
homeopaths in the audience were reasonably articulate, though they were not
nearly as intellectually strong as Peter), I am surprised and confused why
you dissed Peter Fisher (I assume that you thought that Peter's pro
vaccination stand was offensive, but please know that I bet that few of us
would agree with each other on ALL health and medical controversies...the
bottomline is that Peter was an articulate and strong speaker for
homeopathy).
Dana Ullman, MPH
Homeopathic Educational Services
2124 Kittredge St.
Berkeley, CA. 94704
(510)649-0294
(800)359-9051 (orders only in the U.S.)
(510)649-1955 (fax)
dullman@igc.org OR dana@homeopathic.com
http://www.homeopathic.com

Dear Dana

1- The fact that I did not like the Graph prescription is irrelevant.
The point that the treatment of the child shown fairly on the TV programme
was useless, is IMPORTANT.

If RLHH was doing such a good job, then why is it losing funding?
Is it purely a campaign against it, or is it NOT managing to treat people
properly?
If the case of the little girl is anything to go by, then the answer is
perhaps clear.
Where does the buck stop? ALWAYS at the TOP!

2- Re The proceedings at NHM
If we can use the voting at the end - then % wise less people were for
homoeopathy at the end.

Regards

Soroush

Very well said Soroush, totally support you on this one. The man has
a difficult job, no doubt, but this is also the future of Homeopathy
at stake here, and he often represents Homeopahty in the public
arena, mostly rather poorly. So, yes Dana, pass on our comments to
him next time you both have a chat. Grace

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Does it seem to be an issue of insufficient preparation, or something
either of you could put a finger on? Nobody can do *everything* well;
maybe concrete suggestions / changes could help him play more to his
strengths, and draw on whatever help or feedback might be needed for
the presentations etc.? I've never seen/heard him...
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You can see the debate at Natural History Museum last year.

http://www.badscience.net/?p=339
Bad Science belongs to Dr Ben Goldacre who has decided to attack Homeopathy.

I challenged him to a re-proving but he chickened out!

Regards

Soroush

When I give a talk on Homoeopathy to the public, I always explain how Hahnemann discovered Homoeopathy with his experience with the 'Peruvian bark'. This helps the listener to understand symptom similarity and the cornerstone of Homoeopathy.
Then I approach the problem of giving similars in that the initial agg could cause serious difficulty for the patient and could be life threatening.
Then I bring in the concept of Dilution and IMPORTANTLY succussion. This being a two pronged approach - the first obviously reduced any immediate agg and thus making it safe and the succussion which seems give depth to the power of homoeopathic remedies to enter the mental and emotional realms too. I then touch on Tritration which enables us to produce remedies out of almost anything.
I then explain how provings are done and how therefore remedy for the patient is individualised. I explain this by asking people to describe the types of headaches that they may have suffered and how each type may indicated different remedy as part of the totality of the symptoms.
If you study the critics of Hom, it seems that they are mainly attacking us on the issue of the dilution. These guys in my opinion should be invited to take part in a re-proving using say a 30C remedy - They can of course have a sample of it to have it independently tested to ensure it carries no obnoxious substance. (Dr Ben Goldacre was worried that I might poison him!!!)

Regards

Soroush