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Chewing plastics

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:37 am
by olofgrace
I am a lurker, but one with an increasingly urgent concern with my 6
year old son. I don't know if it is fitting or proper for me to ask
advice about a particular situation here, but I'll do it anyway and
you can get the wet noodle if you must...

He was a thumb sucker from in utero until about 4 months ago. Now he
has switched to chewing plastics. I've tried replacement things
(jerky, gum, etc), but he gravitates back to plastics. I've tried
massage to relax him; he loves it, but it doesn't stop the chewing as
some suggested it might.

I don't begrudge him his oral stimulation needs, but the destruction
of household goods is what I'm looking to stem!

Any thoughts about what he needs?

M

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:27 pm
by Tanya Marquette
worse yet is the chemicals in the plastics that can
be highly toxic. i just finished reading several articles
on the release of chemicals from plastics. BPA (bisphenal A)
is one such chemical that is known to cause reproductive
problems/diseases and it is all over the place even under
controlled situations. i would think about this hard while
your 6 yr old continues his craving.
perhaps this is your clue--the craving for something addictive
in the plastic?
tanya

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:00 pm
by Connie
Hi! I'm new here, and I don't know what your son is craving but
please do not let him chew on plastic! It can be very toxic as you
probably already know. I'm an earthy mom of 3 and this is something
that I'm always concerned about (ridding the home of harmful
chemicals); and plastics are something we are gradually phasing out.
Chewing on them releases harmful chemicals into your son's body.

~Connie

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Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:29 pm
by Irene de Villiers
olofgrace wrote:

This is an opinion without any training behind it - just a view I hold,
perhaps influenced by helping my mother with her class of 65
first-graders most years for her life of teaching:

I believe:
He sees the activity as one that pleases you and small children will do
whatever they think the parent approves of. That does not mean he NEEDS
oral stimulation - he is doing it out of habit by now - and in fact I
feel you are doing him no favour by encouraging it at age six. to my way
of thinking "not begrudging" is the same as encouraging at this point.
In fact I feel you are setting him up for ridicule at school and in
other social situations by your tacit approval of this behaviour not
suited to age 6 and above. (Where would yo put a stop to it? age 19? and
why? You need to draw the line and I think it is none too soon.
You mention household damage bit *I* would think of it from his
perspective:
Do you want him to feel ridicule? IS that really in HIS interests?
Do you WANT him to be so short of self-confidence that he needs an oral
stimulation substitute?

A suggestion:
Have you discussed this with him? What I have seen work is to do that
and to explain that as he's now 6, this is not something 6 year olds do,
and while the sucking items have been really relevant and useful in the
past, there comes a time in life when one has to let go of some things.
So arrange with his help - a very specific ceremony to do this - plan it
at a nice park with a river, have various ceremonies to say thanks and
good bye to the current LAST item sucked - and with his agreement,
ceremoniously have him toss it into the river with flowers or whatever
to send it on its way for good, with thanks for its job completed.
Then from there (part 2 of of same ceremony) go to a place to enroll
him in some kind of 6 year old activity like tumbling or swimming or
other physical confidence building activity incompatible with sucking
things.
And reward his progress as a big kid. Give him the attention he was
seeking from sucking by rewarding more mature behaviour with a lot of
attention. Sucking something in my view is a sign of lack of
self-confidence and nothing builds self confidence like ability to do
something - such as swimming, tumbling or any other activity that not
everyone can do.
I'd be more concerned about his upcoming embarassment and lack of
self-confidence. Hosehold goods are easier to fix that a boy with no
self-confidence who is being ridiculed by his peers - and in my opinion
THAT will do far more harm to him, than letting this become a "household
object" issue. That alone would undermine him further in my view. HE
needs to be the important aspect. The "crutch" of the sucking needs to
be replaced by something more appropriate for HIS benefit.
(It will fix the house issue as a side effect rather than as the main
issue.)

Again - this is just my view based on the things stated above as background.
You could add in some Bach Larch and Wild oat, to build confidence.
And if that still does not cover it, then perhaps there is a pathology
that needs homeopathy.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:03 am
by olofgrace
Thanks for the thoughts. I know plastic is not good for him to chew,
that's why I'm seeking advice to help stop it.

As for him seeking my approval with his chewing (??!?!), or worries
over ridicule by other kids, these fall wide of the mark. We adopted
him and he has been doing the oral stim thing long before he came
into our lives. We homeschool, and he has lots of friends who
fortuately are not into ridiculing one another. And yes, of course I
have talked with him about it over and over. What I mean by not
begrudging his oral stim need is from research I've done that shows
some kids need/take time to develop proper sensitivity with their
sensory issues -- some kids are overly sensitive, some kids "underly"
so -- and he falls in to the latter description. What I mean is I'm
not going to force him to do something for social reasons while
ignoring underlying health/medical reasons at hand. Seems to me
filling what his body needs will make the other thing far easier to
curtail. I believe he is doing it for a reason connected with what
his body needs, and I include his thought processes when I say body.

His birthmother, by the way, chewed plastics well into adulthood.
Honestly, do none of you out there ever chaw on a pen cap? Is it
that rare? He doesn't suck things, he chews off bits and spits them
out, or just chews them into a different shape.

He does not act like a boy without confidence, but I know he is a
perfectionist. Maybe there is something there. He is what Mary
Sheedy Kurcinka calls a "spirited child". Loud, energetic,
unflaggingly social, a leader, irregular in his body clock, hard
adapting to change, sensitive emotionally, very "right brained". He
chews most when he is thinking, trying to figure things out.

Homeopathy works so well for him in other things I was hoping this
would ring a bell for something.

Thanks
M

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:42 am
by Tanya Marquette
have you taken him to a professional homeopath
for classical case taking? there is a rubric
that deals with eating inedible objects. that
may prove useful in figuring out his rx.
also, since his birth mother did the same thing,
you might have to factor in her history.
but i would not minimize the toxicity of his
behavior. the plastics that we have today are
extremely lethal, especially combined with all
the other forms of exposure that we cannot control.
good luck
tanya

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:30 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Irene and olofgrace,
I'd offer a differing opinion, based mostly (maybe entirely) on my
experience raising an initially very "oral" toddler. At age six she
was still *very* much attached to her pacifiers, and it was NOT because
we encouraged it! Not everything kids do is for the sake of their
parents...! (Ah, wouldn't that be nice... :-D )

Sometimes the child can be encouraged to let the habit go; other times
the most effective approach is to make your preferences known--gently,
and providing a few non-threatening reasons (I'm thinking along the
lines of "People just kind of expect...", or, "I think you're old
enough that you probably don't really need that now;" and NOT anything
like "Everyone will think you're still a baby" or anything like
that!!!!!

We'd heard a friend say that her daughter finally gave up the "binkies"
in a little ritual, where they ceremoniously buried the remaining ones
in their backyard. My daughter was charmed by the idea, so we did the
same. She lasted for about five hours, then as she found herself
approaching the end of the day binky-less, she begged us to let her go
dig them back up. We tried to encourage the "stiff upper lip" and that
"All Grown Up" feeling, but finally opted instead for the "Good Night
of Sleep" and let her retrieve them. A few weeks later she re-buried
them, that time for good. Call me a sissy, but pointless struggle just
isn't my thing...
"Tacit approval" is not necessarily the issue, IMO, but the opinions of
peers will definitely come into play. That can and should be
*mentioned* to the child if it seems necessary, so that *they* have the
opportunity to decide how they would like to handle it. And quite
probably they shouldn't be bringing the thing to school anyway!
It's just another developmental thing. Like sleeping with mom and dad;
like needing a hug for a skinned knee; like dressing oneself, etc.,
etc. Once the need is *past*, it will be let go. Just as kittens
weaned too soon may in later life show ill effects (emotionally as well
as physically), sometimes children do need the chance to *grow out of*
these things, not be pushed before they are ready. That oral thing is
a very basic one...

But yeah, by six he might indeed be ready and able to move past it.
Tho I'm not sure that chewing household objects to point of destruction
is necessarily quite the same as plain ol' sucking!! Interesting...
I'd be very much inclined to first evaluate his "case" overall, and
then look at the sucking and chewing in *context*, as clue to the
needed remedy. The remedy should help that energy find a more useful
outlet, I would think.

Cheers,
Shannon

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:33 am
by Jean Doherty
GENERALITIES; BITING, chewing; amel. (10) : staph., ars., bry., chin., cocc., coff., cupr-acet., euph., mag-m., seneg.
I wonder if useful .
you would need to read up on each one. Also Carcinocin would cover a lot of the picture, Very Best Wishes J,ean.

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:05 am
by Shannon Nelson
Perhaps the chewing is a "nervous energy" kind of thing, at least in
part? Chewing is a good "releaser"... I'm thinking of an ADHD friend
of my son's, who has always been given permission--encouragement,
even--to chew gum during class when he feels the need, as a way of
helping himself stay settled in his seat, etc. They also give him
squishy balls to squeeze, and other little tricks. It seems to have
worked very well! Interestingly, according to my son, the class has
been very matter-of-fact about the extra privileges, understanding that
this classmate sometimes needs help to "cool his engines". Perhaps
that's part of what it does for your son??
Has he had Medorrhinum?
Shannon

Re: Chewing plastics

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:26 am
by olofgrace
I haven't had him to a homeopath per se (as they don't abound in our
area). Both our ND and his MD/pediatrician use and are trained in
homeopathy though.

I think I will take him in.

Thanks for the replies.

M