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ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:04 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Please read the foot note 7 with care.

Does it need discussion??

Shall we stop for a while to get a clear picture of this?

ยง 11 Sixth Edition
When a person falls ill, it is only this spiritual, self acting (automatic)
vital force, everywhere present in his organism, that is primarily deranged
by the dynamic (6) influence upon it of a morbific agent inimical to life;
it is only the vital force, deranged to such an abnormal state, that can
furnish the organism with its disagreeable sensations, and incline it to the
irregular processes which we call disease; for, as a power invisible in
itself, and only cognizable by its effects on the organism, its morbid
derangement only makes itself known by the manifestation of disease in the
sensations and functions of those parts of the organism exposed to the
senses of the observer and physician, that is, by morbid symptoms, and in no
other way can it make itself known. (7)

FN 6 Materia peccans!

FN7
What is dynamic influence, - dynamic power? Our earth, by virtue of a hidden
invisible energy, carries the moon around her in twenty-eight days and
several hours, and the moon alternately, in definite fixed hours (deducting
certain differences which occur with the full and new moon) raises our
northern seas to flood tide and again correspondingly lowers them to ebb.
Apparently this takes place not through material agencies, not through
mechanical contrivances, as are used for products of human labor; and so we
see numerous other events about us as results of the action of one substance
on another substance without being able to recognize a sensible connection
between cause and effect. Only the cultured, practised in comparison and
deduction, can form for himself a kind of supra-sensual idea sufficient to
keep all that is material or mechanical in his thoughts from such concepts.
He calls such effects dynamic, virtual, that is, such as result from
absolute, specific, pure energy and action of he one substance upon the
other substance.

For instance, the dynamic effect of the sick-making influences upon healthy
man, as well as the dynamic energy of the medicines upon the principle of
life in the restoration of health is nothing else than infection and so not
in any way material, not in any way mechanical. Just as the energy of a
magnet attracting a piece of iron or steel is not material, not mechanical.
One sees that the piece of iron is attracted by one pole of the magnet, but
how it is done is not seen. This invisible energy of the magnet does not
require mechanical (material) auxiliary means, hook or lever, to attract the
iron. The magnet draws to itself and this acts upon the piece of iron or
upon a steel needle by means of a purely immaterial invisible, conceptual,
inherent energy, that is, dynamically, and communicates to the steel needle
the magnetic energy equally invisibly (dynamically). The steel needle
becomes itself magnetic, even at a distance when the magnet does not touch
it, and magnetises other steel needles with the same magnetic property
(dynamically) with which it had been endowered previously by the magnetic
rod, just as a child with small-pox or measles communicates to a near,
untouched healthy child in an invisible manner (dynamically) the small-pox
or measles, that is, infects it at a distance without anything material from
the infective child going or capable of going to the one to be infected. A
purely specific conceptual influence communicated to the near child
small-pox or measles in the same way as the magnet communicated to the near
needle the magnetic property.

In a similar way, the effect of medicines upon living man is to be judged.
Substances, which are used as medicines, are medicines only in so far as
they possess each its own specific energy to alter the well-being of man
through dynamic, conceptual influence, by means of the living sensory fibre,
upon the conceptual controlling principle of life. The medicinal property of
those material substances which we call medicines proper, relates only to
their energy to call out alterations in the well-being of animal life. Only
upon this conceptual principle of life, depends their medicinal
health-altering, conceptual (dynamic) influence. Just as the nearness of a
magnetic pole can communicate only magnetic energy to the steel (namely, by
a kind of infection) but cannot communicate other properties (for instance,
more hardness or ductility, etc.).

And thus every special medicinal substance alters through a kind of
infection, that well-being of man in a peculiar manner exclusively its own
and not in a manner peculiar to another medicine, as certainly as the
nearness of the child ill with small-pox will communicate to a healthy child
only small-pox and not measles. These medicines act upon our well-being
wholly without communication of material parts of the medicinal substances,
thus dynamically, as if through infection. Far more healing energy is
expressed in a case in point by the smallest dose of the best dynamized
medicines, in which there can be, according to calculation, only so little
of material substance that its minuteness cannot be thought and conceived by
the best arithmetical mind, than by large doses of the same medicine in
substance. That smallest dose can therefore contain almost entirely only the
pure, freely-developed, conceptual medicinal energy, and bring about only
dynamically such great effects as can never be reached by the crude
medicinal substances itself taken in large doses.

It is not in the corporal atoms of these highly dynamized medicines, nor
their physical or mathematical surfaces (with which the higher energies of
the dynamized medicines are being interpreted but vainly as still
sufficiently material) that the medicinal energy is found. More likely,
there lies invisible in the moistened globule or in its solution, an
unveiled, liberated, specific, medicinal force contained in the medicinal
substance which acts dynamically by contact with the living animal fibre
upon the whole organism (without communicating to it anything material
however highly attenuated) and acts more strongly the more free and more
immaterial the energy has become through the dynamization.

Is it then so utterly impossible for our age celebrated for its wealth in
clear thinkers to think of dynamic energy as something non-corporeal, since
we see daily phenomena which cannot be explained in any other manner? If one
looks upon something nauseous and becomes inclined to vomit, did a material
emetic come into his stomach which compels him to this anti-peristaltic
movement? Was it not solely the dynamic effect of the nauseating aspect upon
his imagination? And if one raises his arm, does it occur through a material
visible instrument? a lever? Is it not solely the conceptual dynamic energy
of his will which raises it?
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Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:33 pm
by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
Indeed, this footnote will take a bunch of rereadings and reflection to
assimilate. It addresses, of course, the basic homeopathic principles of
susceptibility and the energetic rather than purely physical origins of both
sickness and health.

For me it raises more questions than answers.

For instance, I just had a fascinating experience with a terrible,
near-fatal case of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, a close cousin to Typhus
(which will be described in the upcoming issue of American Homeopath).

A tick bite -- infectious organisms in the saliva of a tiny insect --
incited the disease. But every person who gets this disease manifests his/
her own pattern of symptoms -- a well-known fact among doctors. And the
degree of susceptibility varies dramatically from individual to
individual -- some barely know they are ill, while others quickly die.

Since I was apparently in the latter group, my life was saved by
antibiotics. That was a fascinating experience too. I could feel when the
microorganisms were destroyed by the antibiotics. However, the disease
process (i.e., the symptoms brought about by my individual susceptibility)
continued unabated -- simply without the fatal potential brought about by
the micro-organisms. By multiplying, the rickettsiae could kill me. But
they weren't causing the symptoms -- I was.

If I'd known about treating Typhus homeopathically and also known early on
what I had, undoubtedly I could successfully have used remedies to affect my
susceptibility and energy, averting the disease's full development. But I
didn't. I couldn't find anyone else who did either, which is why I wrote the
AH article. Severe, potentially fatal bacterial fevers are not a focus of
modern training or practice, although the diseases are still with us, under
different names. (Did you know, for instance, that salmonella poisoning is
the same disease as Typhoid?).

In any case, the symptoms of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever disturbed all
levels of my functioning, and brought about deep changes even in my
spiritual perspective. Hahnemann's description of the dynamics of illness
and healing in this footnote is incredibly accurate. Modern medicine, while
often saving lives, absolutely bypasses this energetic aspect of health. I
think, especially after having had this experience, that this footnote
expresses the core of why homeopathy is crucial to promoting health, even in
the 21st century when allopathic medicine is so much more effective in its
way than it was three centuries ago.

Rosemary
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Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:32 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Rosemary,

So you did not just doing the normal case taking and that would not have been appropriate? Had you known that you were basically treating typhus, you would have approached it differently. If you look up Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, you don't find any reference to typhus. Could you tell us more about that difference? How do you identify a disease in a homeopathic disease family?

I have a very hard time treating myself even for acutes especially when they are life threatening and aggressive. I assume that you went to another homeopath.

Indian authors frequently write about treating the aggressive acute conditions. Because we don't get much of these situations, does case taking seem more formidable? We need to train ourselves for these situations, but you can't do it just in the abstract.

Was there a need to treat yourself for the susceptibility after the antibiotics?

Best,
Ellen

Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:21 am
by Jean Doherty
Thank you for sharing. It does underline how useful it is to have diagnosis and to know the course of the illness. Trust you are way to complete recovery and more wisdom. We all crave that but sometimes comes in peculiar ways, Jean

Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:36 am
by Jean Doherty
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Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:33 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Hi Colleagues

The way I see this is that to become 'dis-eased',

1- We have to have a degree of susceptibility

2- We have to come under some kind of an external influence

These fall broadly in to two categories:
A- Those that are not micro-organism based - eg fright; grief etc
B- Fall under the influence of some external organism.

Hn recognises that there some agents that cause the same disease in all
people - "just as a child with small-pox or measles communicates to a near,
untouched healthy child in an invisible manner (dynamically) the small-pox
or measles" but he did not realise that these agents which were too small to
be seen could be airborne etc.

Rgds
Soroush

Re: ORGANON 6:11

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:44 pm
by Irene de Villiers
I agree so far - but I believe there are more ways this can occur than you
have categorized:
I see all cases of susceptibility in this category - which one call
"stressors that predispose disease"

Fright and grief are both examples of emotional stressors.
There are other stress categories so your "etc" here can be extremely broad.
For example there is direct chemical stress damage (eg from drugs and
vaccines including suppressive chemicals) ,and there is direct physical
stress damage (eg from surgery damage, injury damage of various kinds) and
there is inherited/miasm damage of several kinds.
All of these methods can be stressors that are ways to become susceptible
to disease.
This would be for me the "trigger" mechanism, But I see triggers many ways
too, not just an external organism. A predisposition can be influenced
into disease by many other things
as well. For example toxins, allergens, and foreign invaders of the
micro-organism kind.

A typical example:
A. Stressors predispose disease, such as vaccines, drugs, emotional stress.
B. Disease occurs due to one of the following:
* Vit D deficiency trigger resulting in MS
* FIPV virus trigger mutates to cause FIP.
* Magnesium deficiency trigger to cause fibromyalgia or epilepsy
* Mosquito-carrier-of-Malaria organism trigger to cause malaria
* Chemical exposure triggers cause aplastic anemia
* Allergen triggers anaphylaxis or asthma
* Chemical exposure triggers cancer
* Virus triggers HIV. Herpes, FeLV, FIV,.....
and so on.

Always there is a predispositioon which can be from many causes
plus a trigger which can also be from many options..
If there is no predisposition the "trigger" can not work and there will be
no disease.
But with predisposition, if you add the trigger then you get disease.

Mostly the immune system is involved and I strongly beleieve we need to
address and understand this better in this modern age. In Hn's day it was
not a system that was understood or even imagined. But today it is - and
understanding the cytokines of that system, gives us insight in advance
into what is predisposed - and whether it is predisposd due to
miasm/inheritance or due to recent stressors. We also have the opportunity
to intervene at the predisposition stage BEFORE the trigger occurs that
results in visible disease.
Yes true - but this is one small category out of MANY - and I feel we need
to also recognize all the other categories. There's a lot of modern
science and research that we should be using and not ignoring in this
predisposiion to disease area - as well as in the triggering of disease
area.

Namaste,
Irene
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