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breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:46 am
by Gail
Does anyone remember who wrote about discovering that giving Pulsatilla
could turn a breach baby to a head presentation. I thought it was in
Kent under Pulsatilla, and I also checked Clarke's Pulsatilla without
finding it.

Gail.

Re: breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:56 am
by Gaby Rottler
Hi Gail,
it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:

A: - Irregular labor-pains; it not infrequently restores a harmonious
contraction of the uterus and determines a natural presentation of the
child, testimony on this point is so strong that its power to rectify
abnormal presentations seem undoubted.

H: - || During first stage of labor child was lying transversely (first
position, shoulder presentation), in thirty minutes vertex presented.

Best,

Gaby

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Re: breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:15 pm
by Gail
Thanks Gaby,

Have you (or anyone else reading) had any experience using it. I had
a pregnant woman due in 3 weeks, asking for it - her midwife
mentioned to her that it was a remedy often used successfully. She
has about a week before the doctor will try and turn the baby
manually. Does it ever bring the labour on early?

Gail
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Re: breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:49 pm
by Shannon Nelson
I would bet that the way this connection was discovered was
"clinically"--by a few examples of seeing women who got pulsatilla
because that was *called for* by their presenting picture--and seeing
incidentally, that it also caused the presentation to right itself. So
my first thought (and apologies if this is only stating the obvious...)
would be--take her case; does Puls seem indicated elsewhere? If so, it
should be an easy call to give it; if not, why not first give "the
indicated remedy" and see whether that does the trick? (I have zero
actual experience with this issue... Am only offering my FWIW
thoughts.)
Shannon

Re: breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:38 pm
by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
That's a good approach, Shannon. I can attest that giving Puls without taking the case, just to "turn the baby" is not necessarily effective. I've been asked to provide it a couple of times by people whose thinking on remedies is basically allopathic -- as one might expect, using the remedy in that way doesn't necessarily work.
Rosemary

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Re: breach babies

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:46 pm
by Peter Boehm
Hi

It often does the trick! another rem to think of is Tuberculinum, which also can help- of course there should be some symptoms to guide.

few own experience, some from my patients treated by hom. midwifes .

Here in Germany Dr. Friedrich Graf has a lot of experience, who has been teaching hundreds of midwifes over the years.
afaik none of his books have been translated.

Peter

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Re: breach babies

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:28 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Peter,
Just as a point of curiosity--are you saying that it often works *even*
if the patient is not presenting any (other) recognizable pulsatilla
symptoms (or referring to instances where it was given without finding
out the rest of case?
Shannon

Re: breach babies

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:53 am
by Suriya
it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:
I have used Pulsatilla for restoring normal uterine tone and in two cases the results are positive
In one case a woman who previously had retained placenta for each birth now had a normal birth and normal expulsion.
In another , a breech presentation became cephalic 3 days before delivery. I gave the remedy a few days before the turn.

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Re: breach babies

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:26 am
by Shannon Nelson
Suriya--
I would like to ask you the same question: Can you say whether the
women in which you saw it work also had *other* symptoms of pulsatilla?
Shannon

Re: breach babies

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:43 am
by suriya56
Dear Shannon

Yes indeed they did. I did not prescribe Pulsatilla empirically but
based on Similimum.
It did not include the constitutional picture , only the symptom picture

regards

Suriya
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