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delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:06 am
by Gail
Am wondering if anyone can help with this rubric - She has the delusion
she is a ghost and her family are all ghosts - also involved is a
suicidal impuls and history in the family.

Thanks, Gail.

Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:18 am
by Sielmann, Gabriele
could be Cannabis indica
yours
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Tel. 0 57 24 - 97 18 55
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:35 am
by always.question
Hi Gail,

So many possibilities. How did the situation come about, and how does
she feel about being a ghost? Could consider del unreal plus superhuman
or superhuman control; also religious delusions, religious affections;
also e.g. light - he could float (ie non-corporeal). Then there's del
of immortality, various del re existence, and the 'spectres'
subrubrics. There are more, depending on just how the case lies. In any
case, sounds markedly sycotic.

Suse
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:31 am
by Shannon Nelson
Also possibly (??) rubrics re separated (sensation of), isolation,
estranged??

Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:37 am
by Gail
Hi Susie,

Thanks for the ideas. This is not actually a client that I'm
treating - more a case that sparks my interest, so I explore it for
my own learning. I couldn't find this delusion of being a ghost in
Synthesis.

It came about through doing a Family Constellation Therapy workshop.
My experience is that Family Constellation and Homoeopathy work on a
similar energetic pattern and blend really well. This particular
constellation showed a family history of trauma with a lot of deaths
and a family loyalty reaction toward suicide in a way that alerts me
to the possibility of miasmatic damage from the trauma.

Gail.
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:42 am
by Gail
Hi Gabriele,

Would be interested, if you have time to explain, to understand what
you have seen in and know about Cannabis Indica that prompts your
response.

Gail.

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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:45 am
by Chat
Hi Gail,
Where did you do your Family Constellation Therapy Workshop? Alize Timmerman uses it and discussed it in her recent Cancer seminar here in Brisbane. It made a great deal of sense from the little information we were given, gives both the practitioner and the patient great insight into their situation. How did you find out about it?
Best wishes, Elizabeth
Similibooks
Be Happy, Be Healthy, Belong
PO Box 2108, Windsor Qld 4030 Australia
Ph 07 3861 1883
Fax 07 3861 1623
Email chat@similibooks.com
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:31 am
by Gail
Hi Elizabeth,

Google Family Constellations and have a look. I put here first the
address to the chat site set up by Chris Walsh who also has a web
page with information about workshops happening on the East coast in
Australia. The second address is for Chris's site.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/
http://www.constellationflow.com/
I'm in Perth and am part of a group of facilitators who are involved
in regular group work and learning. My experience is that being a
representative in a constellation can have a similar effect to being
exposed to a homoeopathic remedy. Constellations can be used as a way
to understand remedy pictures, to give clarity about symptoms,
miasmatic influences and much more. It is possible to set up a
constellation for a patient to look at their symptom picture and ask
the symptoms to tell you about their modalities, causations, and
importance.

Gail

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Timmerman uses it and discussed it in her recent Cancer seminar here
in Brisbane. It made a great deal of sense from the little
information we were given, gives both the practitioner and the
patient great insight into their situation. How did you find out
about it?
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:32 am
by Sielmann, Gabriele
Hi Gail,
35 years before I've worked in a center for drugs.
There have been a lot of people who thought they would be ghosts, angels etc.
"You can't touch me - I'm not here, I'm not real..." and
"Go away, you live in another world - you must work, but I AM !"
All of these have been shit-people.
Has been a prove in itsself ;-)
A story of cann:
One of them had an onion in her hand for cutting it.
the onion rolled over the table and she was not able to catch it.
Then she began to laugh and couldn't stop it.
Afterwards she tried to roll all she saw,
the knife, the table, the dishes... what ever she found in the kitchen.
She cried: "All has to roll, we all have to roll, we all roll to fly...!"
Then she saw the sun rising up through the window.
Her mouth opened and "I'm an angel - that's the way to heaven!!"
All what she saw was focussing in that special point she was concentrated ion.
Gabriele.
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Re: delusion - ghosts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:45 am
by Gail
Thank you Gabriele,

That makes so much sense to me - there was a story of alcohol abuse,
indications of drug use, and that need to detach, not feel anything,
not be touched, and a sensation of being very unreal and other
worldly.

Gail

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