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Rochelle wrote: Dr Luc de Schepper's book Attaining and Maintaining the Simillimum [...] come back to me on that

Hi Rochelle,

This book has been mentioned a lot on this website - I'd never heard of it before. All my information and usage conclusions come from the Organon, from lectures, and not least from wide research on potency in general. From the comments about the Schepper book one gets the impression that it's a strict methododology with 'recipes' for determining drops, succussions, cups. Have I got that right? If you're interested in using liquid potencies more - and I can confirm, having used both dry and liquid doses from the start, that the liquid is simply gentler and far more flexible - then going straight to the Organon is a great idea (Wenda's version presents the relevant sections with great clarity, even if her translations are not always above doubt; I use her's, Dudgeon/Boerike's and the German original alongside each other). And not being afraid of experimentation! Your guide is always the VF of the patient, not a prescribed methodology. I tend to use LMs more than Cs; whether and how far I get the patient to dilute the dose from the stock bottle etc etc depends entirely on the case; I tend to encourage frequent feedback and often adjust the dilution and other aspects of the dosing some way into the treatment cycle. The number of succussions I often leave up the to the patient, what 'feels right' to them: it is their energy going in, it is their energy that will be affected, so within certain parameters, the strength and frequency of their succussions can be trusted to match the needs of their VF. But some prefer precise instructions, with children the mother does it and so needs more specific guidance, and some people are too far away from that sort of VF-led instinct. So as with all things homeopathic, it's about individualising.

As you're just beginning to work with this, and have mentioned record-keeping, it will be interesting to hear about your experiences with this in comparison with the methods you have been used to. All the best.

SUSE
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Rochelle wrote: come back to me on that

Oops, going on about potency etc, I didn't in the end respond to your Q re aggravations/RoS. Whether the Rx should be stopped when a sx appears depends on the circs/the case. If it's clearly an aggravation, I will always ask them to stop, then w&w or take appropriate measure to antidote (but with careful liquid dosing true aggravations don't happen often), then re-consider the prescription in context of development. If it's an RoS, then it depends on circs: how long it's been going on by the time I hear about the situation, how intense is it, how are they in themselves, how did the sx develop and what direction does it seem to be going in right now? Options are w&w, carry on but change frequency/size of dose/dilution/succussion... always depending on the individual circs of the case. That's how I handle agg/RoS, based on reading and subsequent experience.

Regards, SUSE

Hi Suse,
Chris has correctly answered your query re Luc de Schepper's book. It really is a brilliant easy to read book, reinforcing what I learnt at college (and showing me that I was taught well:-)) and expounding the virtues of 5th and 6th Edition prescribing. Up to then I had been prescribing mostly dry doses and sometimes a water potency by making up 1 pillule in 10ml bottle of water and telling the patient to give 5 succussions and take 5 drops.
Since reading the book I have been experimenting using a 100ml bottle and 1 teaspoon doses using a test dose first, which I never used to do.


I haven't really done enough to come up with any conclusions except I am finding it really difficult to get patient compliance to STOP the remedy when necessary.

I would also like to know whether really there is much difference between my 10ml bottle and 5 drop dose against 100ml bottle and 1 teaspoon dose!!!

All the best

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Rochelle wrote: whether really there is much difference between my 10ml bottle and 5 drop dose against 100ml bottle and 1 teaspoon dose!!!

Hi Rochelle,

I have a feeling there might be strong views about this around. My own experience: the 100ml bottles I only use for LMs, the 10ml I use for both LMs and Cs. Cs I give where I feel there is a call for it - a shove more than a nudge, mostly in acutes or where a VF seems to be asking for that. In LMs, I can see a clear difference - the 100ml is 'safe' for everyone. The 10ml is a little less gentle. In 100ml, it's rarely necessary to use more than 1 glass. A lot of people find the dilution routine cumbersome or difficult (arthritic fingers, confused minds, sulphuric natures and many other scenarios), and when it seems that's the only way and the case is 'robust', I'll give them a dropper bottle and they'll take 'a squirt' undiluted, succussion only - that's 5 drops, but without having to count. If dilution is essential, I tend to stick to the 100ml, as being gentler all round.

I theorise that the difference may be connected not just to the larger amount of water but also because there is more space for the liquid to swirl around in during succussion. Have a look how the mix looks as you bring it down firmly on the succussion surface and how the vortex stills itself. In the 10ml bottle, even if you leave a third space, there just isn't so much movement possible. No back-up for this idea - anyone out there know of any scientific background on this?

What experiences do other people here have with the different dilutions in liquid doses?

SUSE

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Dear Suse ,
Your theory is interesting and one that hadn't crossed my mind!!
BTW - I don't do LMs!!! Just C's and sometimes x's!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Hi Rochelle,
Oh good, this is always so important.

Does he say who his copy-editor at the publishing house was?

I have always thought it sooo unjust that - other than the translators
- the copy editors are not mentioned on the front leaf, although in a
lot of cases it is they who determine the success or failure of a
book. Some authors, however, do give credit to them in the preface
or foreword, thanking them and others by name.

Btw. I think that should also get to be the custom in articles. I know
that in the articles I have had published so far a lot of the credit
for them being readable and easy to understand (where they are:-) is
due to the copy-editors. I did do so in the articles on my site. Just
for once I should like to be convincing enough that ALL others follow
suit:-)

Regards

Luise
book, reinforcing what I

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