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Blood tests

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:58 pm
by Rochelle
A patient has Ferriton(sp?) levels of 6 and they should be between 12 and 33. What is the significance of this low level (Dr Roz?) . Her haemoglobin is 10.2 (normal 11- 14).
Her Doctor doesn't seem bothered!!
Thanks
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Blood tests

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:25 pm
by Gaby Rottler
Hi Rochelle,

Ferritine (not Ferriton) is a parameter for measuring the iron-binding
capacities (compare: Transferrine). Decreased levels point to iron
deficiency, increased levels to anemia with tumors.
Ferritine and Transferrine always need to be interpreted together with
Hb. Especially in women levels may change during menses and pregnancy,
so an isolated laboratory value alone is not helpful, it may be better
observing the course.

Best,

Gaby

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Re: Blood tests

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:45 pm
by Sarvadaman Oberoi
Rochelle wrote June 06, 2007 5:24 PM
A patient has Ferriton(sp?) levels of 6 and they should be between 12 and 33. What is the significance of this low level (Dr Roz?) . Her haemoglobin is 10.2 (normal 11- 14).
Dear Rochelle,

Ferriton levels can be genetically low (Irish / Scottish) or pathologically low i.e. loss of the reserves of iron in the body even as haemoglobin level normal. Look for internal bleeding, excess iron intake, deficient uptake of iron etc. Look for pathology or diet or metabolism causes. In the meantime you could possibly treat as acute with Ferrum phos 6C or 6X water potency, which should balance the levels gradually. Avoid giving iron as that can set up iron toxicity, constipation and flushing of iron.
Regards.
Sarvadaman Oberoi

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Re: Blood tests

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:06 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Early marker of iron deficient anemia, first test to decrease.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Re: Blood tests

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:29 am
by Rochelle
Dear Sarvadaman
Thanks for the information
This patient was told the cause may be because of menstruation. I believe she is taking iron tablets prescribed by her doctor. I wouldn't want to give Ferr Phos except maybe as a Tissue salt as there are so many other things to deal with in this patient that are more important.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Blood tests

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:37 am
by Sarvadaman Oberoi
Rochelle wrote June 07, 2007 3:19 AM
Dear Sarvadaman
Thanks for the information

This patient was told the cause may be because of menstruation. I believe she is taking iron tablets prescribed by her doctor. I wouldn't want to give Ferr Phos except maybe as a Tissue salt as there are so many other things to deal with in this patient that are more important.
Dear Rochelle,

Some relevant extracts from Geukens. Also now even in India allopaths are beginning to advise iron only as a last resort and that too with folic acid, after all other methods (diet, alternative systems) fail. While a toxic dose of elemental iron is 30 mg/kg, and a fatal dose is typically more than 250 mg/kg, ingestion of doses as low as 60 mg/kg have resulted in death.

Regards.
Sarvadaman Oberoi

H 485 FF Ansals Palam Vihar

Gurgaon 122017 Haryana INDIA

Mobile: +919818768349 Tele: +911244076374

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GEUKENS A., Homeopathic Practice (gk4)

Bronchitis, metrorrhagia

Tuberculinum bovinum kent

- You came back this year (1988) on July 4 and said, "I have very strong bleeding of the menses."

- It was very bad.

- How old are you.

- P : I'll be 47.

- With one dose of Lycopodium every year she was doing very well for 4 years.

- Now she comes with very, very strong bleeding of the menses and she is 47 years old.

- Which rubric can we take for this?

- "Metrorrhagia, climacteric period" on page 730.

- A : These strong menstruation pains meant for me that you were in the climacteric period.

- P : Yes, that was also my first idea.

- A : Second the herpes was good after the treatment, after the first remedy.

- But there was always a vertigo in the morning while waking up.

- Third, the bleeding was painless.

- You hardly had pain with it.

- Which is the first remedy in painless metrorrhagia?

- Kali ferro-cyanatum.

- Kali ferro-cyanatum in people with a Kali character, who are very conservative and to whom duty is very important.

- A : You have taken iron tablets for some months.

- Who prescribed you these?

- P : Nobody.

- At work there are many iron tablets.

- I thought it can't be bad.

- Maybe this is the cause for the metrorrhagia.

- She is working in a centre for plasma, where everybody who donated blood gets iron tablets.

- She didn't feel well and therefore she started taking these iron tablets.

- What happened?

- The abuse of iron.

- Often Ferrum is the right remedy when there is a lack of iron and when they take iron it improves.

- You often see this in pregnancy.

- Women in general become pale and with the slightest thing they blush.

- One of our secretaries who was pregnant came in the kitchen where I was supervising a case I noticed how pale she was and I said, 'My God, you look pale!" She blushed immediately, because I said this in the presence of other doctors.

- She took Ferrum and she was doing well afterwards.

- "Iron, after abuse of on page 1369 these are the remedies which can start bleeding after the administration of iron : Pulsatilla, Arsenicum, Sulphur and Zincum.

- A : You have taken them for one month already?

- P : Yes.

- A : In Homoeopathy we know that this can lead to problems.

- Then we told you to stop taking these iron tablets immediately.

- I gave you a remedy which fit for the bleeding and then the bleeding stopped very quickly.

- How quickly?

- P : The same day.

- And which remedy is complementary to Lycopodium? Pulsatilla.

- A : On July 4, 1988 I gave you the remedy, the loss of blood disappeared, you had regular menses again for two months.

- You came on August 16, 1988, so 14 days ago.

- The new problem was hoarseness and then you got influenza.

- Can you give me some symptoms of the influenza?

Re: Blood tests

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:11 am
by Rochelle
Ooh - I didn't know about the pale AND blushing with Ferrum. Thanks for this.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk