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so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:53 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 11:55 AM 1/24/2007 +0000, you wrote:

More at the websites I've already given

and here

http://www.duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html
THE AFRICAN AIDS EPIDEMIC:
NEW AND CONTAGIOUS - OR - OLD UNDER A NEW NAME?

From Peter Duesberg to the AIDS panel, 6/22/00

http://www.toxi-health.com/

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/327/7427/1306-c#43382
What Really Causes AIDS

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/328/7434/249#49138
Essential Measures To Stop The AIDS Epidemic

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/324/7335/446/a
AIDS in Africa is Caused by Starvation and Medications 7 March 2002

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n15875597
AIDS in Africa: puzzling, harrowing pictures
Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Nov, 2005 by Marcus A. Cohen

http://www.rebirth.co.za/hiv_does_not_cause_aids3.htm
V. Causes and pathogenesis of AIDS in Africa: As of November 1996, the
number of AIDS cases reported in Africa by the World Health Organization
was 553,291 (Fauci et al., 1998).

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/epvtafrica.htm
AIDS IN AFRICA?

Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos & Valendar Turner

Rethinking AIDS Jan. 1995
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:54 pm
by Simon King LCPH MARH
- whilst it might be very interesting I really don't have time to
read all that! :-)

Unless there is a research grant in the offing.....?
;-)
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:56 pm
by Sheri Nakken
You asked a question and I don't have to reinvent the wheel, unless there
is a research grant in the offing ???

Just click on them and glance and skim.
That will give you the idea
Sheri

At 01:06 PM 1/24/2007 +0000, you wrote:
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:42 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Simon,
I think one relevant part for your question is the assertion that what
we are calling AIDS is simply effects of malnutrition (and probably
vaccination would also be named as a co-culprit).
Cheers,
Shannon
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:02 pm
by Kathleen Ramsey
Is there very much Vaccination going on in Africa to think it might be a
cause? Kathy
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] so-called AIDS in Africa
Hi Simon,
I think one relevant part for your question is the assertion that what
we are calling AIDS is simply effects of malnutrition (and probably
vaccination would also be named as a co-culprit).
Cheers,
Shannon
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:25 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 11:58 AM 1/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:

HUGE amounts.
The give polio vaccine over and over and over - far exceeding any
recommended schedule.

They give measles/MMR vaccine over and over and over
they have no record of the vaccine being given, give it again
They don't even ask for records but just go in and give over and over

There are many who think that monkey virus contamination of polio vaccine
is the cause
I don't agree with that, but there is much written on that
See my polio pages
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm

But the immune suppression and the vital force damage that happens from
vaccines destroys them
Here is an incredible document exposing the danger of the mass vaccination
that is going on

Raymond Obmsawin exposes what goes on in the Third World with its
irresponsible vaccination program..........

http://www.whale.to/a/obomsawin3.html
UNIVERSAL IMMUNIZATION
Medical Miracle or Masterful
Mirage

"Conclusion

The foregoing observations indicate that there is a genuine need for world
governments to reconsider their policies with respect to universal
childhood immunization, ensuring particular focus on clarifying the vital
issues of the short and longer term impacts of UCI/EPI, and the pressing
need to establish far safer and more effective alternatives."

http://www.vaccination.org.uk/a/nkuba_h.html
testimony from Uganda
Sheri
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http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:29 pm
by Tanya Marquette
there is vaccination in africa complements of WHO, etc.

what sticks in my feeble memory is that fact that AIDs has
a hx of development in the american lab. it comes out of
the eugenics movement which is not spoken of publicly
these days but is alive and well. i have read a number of
things in the later 1990's about this and it is very plausible.
the AIDs tissue is included in the vaccines that are given
to poor people in africa and elsewhere. and voila! we have
and aids epidemic. it is/was distributed in the gay community
in the usa, most likely via hep b shots given to people with
a highly active sexual pattern. many of the men would get
these shots on a regular basis along with std treatment.

i know this may sound a bit paranoid to some of you kind
thinking folks, but it is about time that people stop trusting
in systems that have a hx of being anti-humanity, pro corp-
orate business and extremely untrustworthy. putting a cherry
atop arsenic doesnt make it any less poisonous, it only makes
us complicit with the one who poisons.

tanya
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:33 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Kathleen Ramsey wrote:

I can only speak for south Africa - where vaccinations have been
standard and routine (at schools for example) for at least 5 or 6 decades.
Vaccines "skew" the immune system (as research shows) meaning they
damage the immune system's necessary balance of cytokine activity. This
balance is necessary for resistance to infectious organisms but more
importantly the imbalance caused by vaccines damages the resistance to
*chronic* disease - something the drug companies prefer to pretend is
irrelevant.
In fact a skewed immune system is a *prerequisite* to ANY chronic disease.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:38 pm
by Sandra
Does anyone believe that this could be a measure for population control?

Sandra
At 11:58 AM 1/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:

HUGE amounts.
The give polio vaccine over and over and over - far exceeding any
recommended schedule.

They give measles/MMR vaccine over and over and over
they have no record of the vaccine being given, give it again
They don't even ask for records but just go in and give over and over

There are many who think that monkey virus contamination of polio vaccine
is the cause
I don't agree with that, but there is much written on that
See my polio pages
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm

But the immune suppression and the vital force damage that happens from
vaccines destroys them
Here is an incredible document exposing the danger of the mass vaccination
that is going on

Raymond Obmsawin exposes what goes on in the Third World with its
irresponsible vaccination program..........

http://www.whale.to/a/obomsawin3.html
UNIVERSAL IMMUNIZATION
Medical Miracle or Masterful
Mirage

"Conclusion

The foregoing observations indicate that there is a genuine need for world
governments to reconsider their policies with respect to universal
childhood immunization, ensuring particular focus on clarifying the vital
issues of the short and longer term impacts of UCI/EPI, and the pressing
need to establish far safer and more effective alternatives."

http://www.vaccination.org.uk/a/nkuba_h.html
testimony from Uganda
Sheri
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
Vaccination Information & Choice Network
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm
homeopathycures@tesco.net
ONLINE Introduction to Homeopathy Classes - next ones January 2007
ONLINE Introduction to Vaccine Dangers Classes - next ones January 2007
ONLINE Intro to Diseases - Risk, Reality & Alternative Treatment next ones
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Re: so-called AIDS in Africa

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:05 pm
by Kathleen Ramsey
Way back before I dropped out of medical school, I was taught that you
would have to use the same needle giving those Hep shots to transfer AIDS?
Now yes since then I have learned many bad things about Vaccinations. I have
all mine and don't have AIDS? I agree vaccinations are bad but I have a
hard time believing they are linked to aids. This is my opinion only but I
don't see how that is scientifically true, unless you are going on the
immune system breakdown and the person is then more susceptible? I am still
not convinced HIV does not have to be present. I believe there is a lot of
educated speculation and that we will never come to an agreement on this
topic. It comes down to what you believe are the origins of AIDs and or
HIV.
Has anyone had any success with Homeopathy and Aids? I personally do not
know anyone with this disease, so I have no hands on information to help.
Thanks Kathy
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Tanya Marquette
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:29 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] so-called AIDS in Africa
there is vaccination in africa complements of WHO, etc.

what sticks in my feeble memory is that fact that AIDs has
a hx of development in the american lab. it comes out of
the eugenics movement which is not spoken of publicly
these days but is alive and well. i have read a number of
things in the later 1990's about this and it is very plausible.
the AIDs tissue is included in the vaccines that are given
to poor people in africa and elsewhere. and voila! we have
and aids epidemic. it is/was distributed in the gay community
in the usa, most likely via hep b shots given to people with
a highly active sexual pattern. many of the men would get
these shots on a regular basis along with std treatment.

i know this may sound a bit paranoid to some of you kind
thinking folks, but it is about time that people stop trusting
in systems that have a hx of being anti-humanity, pro corp-
orate business and extremely untrustworthy. putting a cherry
atop arsenic doesnt make it any less poisonous, it only makes
us complicit with the one who poisons.

tanya

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