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electric stimulation affect on remedies

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:09 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi,
I am taking a remedy for chronic conditions (220c) and recently I had some electric stimulation to the muscle. I went to a doctor to work on postural problems. He relaxes the muscle with some sort of electrical stimulation to the muscle. It lasts about 10 minutes and feels like tingling. I think it is a fairly common practice. I have had it at the massage therapist's also. have not heard of how that affects remedies. Does anyone know? My remedy is affecting me in only a very subtle way so I can't really see a clear change after the electrical treatment.
Thanks,
Ellen

Re: electric stimulation affect on remedies

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:44 am
by sacredqi888
I was taught that all electro stim would antidote remedies. In
practice I have not found that to be the case. Look for a clear return
of old symptoms or the remedy not working anymore to know if you are
that susceptible.

I have found a tendency for Phos, Coffea, and Ign to be more prone to
antidoting electrical anything including the electric blankets, TENS
units etc., but not always.

Check to see if one is sensitive to the environment and electrical
things including thunderstorms for an idea of who might antidote with
such modalities.

I have found when I am on my constitution even tiger balm with the
camphor does not antidote me. Yet when I took mag phos recently one
mint cookie brought back a sudden return of symptoms. On other
occasions mint did not antidote remedies for me so I was surprised.

Best,
Sunny

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Re: electric stimulation affect on remedies

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:09 am
by Ellen Madono
That makes sense. Thenks.

Re: electric stimulation affect on remedies

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:36 am
by Marybeth Buchele
Sunny,
I have found the Magnesium and Natrum remedies to be more susceptible to antidoting with mint, camphor, etc. than other remedies.
Which may explain why your dose of Mag phos was turned off.
Also, I've seen combination remedies turn off a constitutional remedy--like a combo for a cold.
Blessings,
Marybeth
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Re: electric stimulation affect on remedies

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:19 am
by sacredqi888
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susceptible to antidoting with mint, camphor, etc. than other remedies.
remedy--like a combo for a cold.

Thanks Marybeth,

I too have found that combos patients buy over the counter without
telling me has antidoted the constitutional.
They always say I thought it would be OK since it was homeopathic.
Then I remind them of the patient handout with No OTC, creams, or
aromatherapies without talking to me first.

Todd Hoover, MD gave a lecture in Feb 07 on cases that went sideways
that was really cool.

He says:

If the drug has something similar to the remedy it will likely stop
the action of the homeopathic remedy, if it doesn't it won't. If
powerfully suppressive like a steroid suppressive agent if it does
antidote at the worst it will render the case incurable.

Antibiotics don't interfere that much with remedies he would rather
them go on antibiotics for sinus infection when on their constitution
than take another remedy for the acute condition. The main reason is
he knows what the antibiotic will do and it won't interfere with the
constitutional.

Kent lectures on homeopathic philosophy
The oftener you Rx for different groups of symptoms the worse it is
for your pt because it tends to rivet the constitutional state upon
the pt and to make him incurable

Do not Rx until you have found the remedy that is similar to the whole
case even though it is clear your mind that one remedy may be more
similar to one particular group of symptoms and another remedy to
another group.

Todd has a Tourette's pt
Now the patient has allergies and he would rather him take the
allopathic remedies because it won't change the picture of the chronic
disease I am looking at.

If case is improving and get a cold don't give a remedy. If get a
fever and bedridden give an acute remedy. Don't treat every symptom
just because have a symptom. I

f don't see the clear remedy then don't give one

Mary asked about Clearing remedy like a sulph or a nosode or
intercurrents?

Todd said if one sided case and nothing new give the remedy that is
the closest. Some symptoms should go away and the new symptoms may be
closer to the right remedy. One might eventually get to the Simillimum
but should not be done as a routine.

Sulph may create a reaction which may be uncomfortable so not
necessarily a good remedy. Must have other correlating symptoms.
MSM organic sulph is often suppressive but relieves symptoms.

Imaging x-ray etc he hasn't seen much suppression

Mint he has seen antidote two patients: One a Nat mur who ate two
packs of mint lifesavers straight and antidoted and the remedy never
worked again.
Second kid ate a whole pack of candy canes and antidoted.

Use of Vicks and pt drinks coffee and it might antidote but usually it
will be OK after a few days.

When there is no case at all give a remedy that's close if no reaction
then not in the ballpark zigzagging = giving remedy after remedy then
eventually get remedy.

Problems come in during case taking and don't get the full story.
8888

Makes the homeopathic sleuth work worth it right(grin. I love this work.

Best,
Sunny