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Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:37 am
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
Sorry to ask this question if it's already been discussed at length in this forum.

This is a patient who has been put on the allopathic meds Warfarin (Coumadin) and Heparin as anti-thrombotic agents after she was hospitalized with massive pulmonary emboli. The remedy that seems indicated is Lachesis. I wonder, however, if it is in any way dangerous to have her take Lachesis while she's on the emergency allopathic meds, and if so, if there's any way to minimize the danger. My sense is that there shouldn't be any adverse interaction -- but I just want to make sure.

Many thanks.

Rosemary

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Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:09 am
by DCR
Those particular meds are very difficult to stabalize and cause many problems on their own. If you have the full support of the MDs involved, I would go ahead with homeopathic treatment. However, in most real world situations, we don't have full support, and we don't necessarily have MDs and pharmacists who help the patient in the process of stabilizing and as a result have lots and lots of problems that are blamed on absolutely anything but the drugs and the instructions (and homeopathic remedies would make a great scape goat). If I were working with this person and did not have FULL support of the MDs involved - I would wait until they were clearly stabilized on those meds before starting ANY remedy. Just one opinion.

Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:10 am
by muthu kumar
Hi -
I have treated at least 3 cases where the patient had been on
Warfarin etc. ( probably more than 3). (Not with pulmonary emboli
though).
There had been no interaction and all improved well and later on
were able to go off the allopathic drugs in at least 2 cases on
their own accord and because of the improvement.

The remedies given were Aur.met and Nat.mur in one ( Aur acted but
not much, Nat.mur in various potencies from 200 up over more than a
year had the patient cycle to the top of a hill who used to have
dyspnea walking at a fast pace), Cup.acet in another, Ant.ars in
another.

There was no noticeable impact because of the concurrent allopathic
drugs.

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wrote:
length in this forum.
(Coumadin) and Heparin as anti-thrombotic agents after she was
hospitalized with massive pulmonary emboli. The remedy that seems
indicated is Lachesis. I wonder, however, if it is in any way
dangerous to have her take Lachesis while she's on the emergency
allopathic meds, and if so, if there's any way to minimize the
danger. My sense is that there shouldn't be any adverse
interaction -- but I just want to make sure.

Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:05 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hi,
I would not know the running record of a drug. The instability of a drug is
not part of the pharmaceutical company PR program. How do you know that
those drugs are unstable, if you don't already have experience with them?
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:48 pm
by Homoeopathic Help Line
What ever may be the reasons, may it be the financial strength of Allopathic Medicines, we can not deny the fact that allopathic drugs are the order of the day all the world over. We also can not deny the fact that duration of action of allopathic medicines is specific and short. Once this duration has expired or is about to expire, an homoeopathic medicine can safely and confidently be administered and if no allopathic drug is given to the patient for about 90 minutes after the administration of homoeopathic remedy, the remedy works. I have successfully experienced it in several cases.
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Hi,
I would not know the running record of a drug. The instability of a drug is
not part of the pharmaceutical company PR program. How do you know that
those drugs are unstable, if you don't already have experience with them?
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:18 pm
by Tom
Rosemary,

I'm new to the program, but I've had some personal experience with
this. My mother has a serious heart condition and she had a violent
reaction when a homeopath introduced a single 200C dose of Lachesis
to her treatment regimen. Her blood pressure and pulse soared to
dangerous levels, and my family was lucky that we didn't lose her.
Frankly, she was lucky to survive the experience. I'd encourage you
to move ahead cautiously, and I'm glad you'll be getting feedback
from the members here.

Tom

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde PhD"
wrote:

Sorry to ask this question if it's already been discussed at length
in this forum. This is a patient who has been put on the allopathic
meds Warfarin (Coumadin) and Heparin as anti-thrombotic agents after
she was hospitalized with massive pulmonary emboli. The remedy that
seems indicated is Lachesis. I wonder, however, if it is in any way
dangerous to have her take Lachesis while she's on the emergency
allopathic meds, and if so, if there's any way to minimize the
danger. My sense is that there shouldn't be any adverse
interaction -- but I just want to make sure.
Many thanks.
Rosemary

Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:21 pm
by Tom
I tried responding to this thread earlier, but my message never posted
for some reason.

My mother was treated with a 200C dose of Lachesis for her heart
condition, and the results were nothing less than a disaster. Her
blood pressure and pulse skyrocketed, and medical intervention was
required to save her life.

I'm not sure if this was a case where the homeopathic remedy and the
prescription drugs interacted, but it seemed relevant to your thread.
I'd encourage you to move forward with caution.

Tom

Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:41 pm
by Theresa Partington
Hi rosemary,
my thinking is that homeopathy normalises body functions, blood coagulation etc. therefore if someone has sticky blood leading to clotting then a remedy will help the warfarin and hopefully make it redundant. if the allopathic medication is applied to make the blood unnaturally thin eg warfarin given because of an artificial valve that might clog up with normal blood, then the remedy and the medicine are in conflict.
Theresa

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Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:54 pm
by Shannon M
Hi Tom,
A sobering experience--How long did that last, and did she have
improvement afterwards?
Shannon
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Re: Question on potential remedy interaction with allopathic medication

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:04 pm
by Shannon M
I have no personal experience one way or the other on this, but was
taught emphatically that remedies to not interfere with medications,
but occasionally the other way 'round. (Not usually that either, tho.)
Some people have talked about using low potency of a med in order to
help manage side-effects, and apparently the med continues to do its
work, just without such bad side effects. Just FWIW...
Shannon
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