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Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:51 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 01:41 PM 10/11/2006 +0600, you wrote:
The person needs to see a qualified homeopath. There are no remedy lists
to give you.
The treatment and the remedy selection would depend on the total symptom
picture of the person including the addiction.
Then the right remedy would be found.
Then the right potency and way of administering it.
Then the right follow up and monitoring.

Hope that helps
Sheri

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Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:56 pm
by Ellen Madono
Lilenthal lists nacrcotics and opium among his toxin listings. See
Homeopathic Therapeutics.
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Heroin addicted person

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:16 pm
by Quamrul Ahsan
Dear All,

I am seeking assistance from minutus group for the remedies of heroin addicted persons. Have there any body who will kindly give his experience regarding heroin addicted patient treatment procedure and the remedies which are available in Homeopathy.

Thanks and best regards
Quamrul Ahsan

e-mail: qahsan@youngone.co.kr
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Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:58 am
by muthu kumar
Hi Quamrul-
The same principles that guide prescribing for other problems also
apply to treating heroin and other addictions. The "drug pictures" are
more guiding. I had excellent results in one case with Ars ( patient
had a lot of anxiety and at the same time was so meticulously dressed
in such clean clothes etc.). Generally Ars, Phos, Staph, Causticum
(complements Staph), Opium, Nux, Ignatia, Nat.mur etc. come up a lot.
Give a couple of doses of a high potency and wait. No need to repeat a
lot. Get the symptoms both during an acute stage (after using the
addictive drug) and the clear , drug symptom free stage( this stage is
more important for prescribing- while under the influence of the drug
the drug symptoms predominate). Find out how they started, why they
gave up ( if they have done sometime) and why they restarted if they
do... all of these give clues.

Also look at the physical effects of the addiction - emaciation,
bloating, constipation, pupils, wound healing, sweating, warmth etc.

Read Gallavardin's work on Alcoholism. There is much wisdom in there
even though not all medicines there are applicable to heroin addiction.

Need to add counseling too. Read about motivational interviewing (
search on web - there are lots of online material on this). Having a
positive mental attitude ( physician ) is important.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Quamrul Ahsan wrote:
heroin addicted persons. Have there any body who will kindly give his
experience regarding heroin addicted patient treatment procedure and
the remedies which are available in Homeopathy.

Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:47 pm
by VR VR
Hi H,
Just picking up one thread of this discussion - would you mind giving more info on how Causticum complements Staph?
Thanks,
Vera

hahnemannian2002 wrote:
Hi Quamrul-
The same principles that guide prescribing for other problems also
apply to treating heroin and other addictions. The "drug pictures" are
more guiding. I had excellent results in one case with Ars ( patient
had a lot of anxiety and at the same time was so meticulously dressed
in such clean clothes etc.). Generally Ars, Phos, Staph, Causticum
(complements Staph), Opium, Nux, Ignatia, Nat.mur etc. come up a lot.
Give a couple of doses of a high potency and wait. No need to repeat a
lot. Get the symptoms both during an acute stage (after using the
addictive drug) and the clear , drug symptom free stage( this stage is
more important for prescribing- while under the influence of the drug
the drug symptoms predominate). Find out how they started, why they
gave up ( if they have done sometime) and why they restarted if they
do... all of these give clues.

Also look at the physical effects of the addiction - emaciation,
bloating, constipation, pupils, wound healing, sweating, warmth etc.

Read Gallavardin's work on Alcoholism. There is much wisdom in there
even though not all medicines there are applicable to heroin addiction.

Need to add counseling too. Read about motivational interviewing (
search on web - there are lots of online material on this). Having a
positive mental attitude ( physician ) is important.

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Quamrul Ahsan wrote:
heroin addicted persons. Have there any body who will kindly give his
experience regarding heroin addicted patient treatment procedure and
the remedies which are available in Homeopathy.

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Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:57 pm
by Anneke Hogeland
In treatment of addiction do not forget Lac humanum. People get into
an addicted state for a reason, and the state of the drug often
resembles being in the womb. Alize Timmerman has some beautiful cases
where she treats with high potency Lac humanum, intercurrents for the
acute needs at a low (physical level) potency, and she also advocates
giving X potency pellets for the person to take whenever they feel
the need to use again. I have now 2 cases where I am following this
type of protocol, so far so good, although too early to call them cures. Anneke

At 08:58 PM 10/11/2006, you wrote:
Kind regards, Anneke Hogeland
Anneke@AnnekeH.com

Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:14 am
by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
Hi, Anneke.

Could you clarify what remedy the X potency pellets are -- Lac-h, or an
indicated intercurrent?

Thanks for that interesting protocol.

Warmly,

Rosemary

Re: Heroin addicted person

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:18 pm
by Anneke Hogeland
Hi Rosemary, The x potency pellets could be Sac lac, as a placebo, or
whatever the drug of choice was, slightly potentized, then the Lac
hum would be the base remedy encouraging the person to come into
reality, and may later have to be alternated with the basic addictive
substance remedy, i.e. alcohol, cocaine, etc. The idea is that when
the addicted person gets a craving, there is something to take that
won't harm him. Anneke

At 05:29 PM 10/13/2006, you wrote:
Kind regards, Anneke Hogeland
Anneke@AnnekeH.com