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Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:05 am
by Linda
I haven't paid very much attention to most of the posts because I am
having problems concentrating due to hypothyroidism and my doc has
just taken my thyroid meds from me for a period of 6 - 8 weeks because
of an appointment I had with an endocrinologist. Long story make short!

I was wondering if anyone knew of anything that would help me through
this period, because I sure will be needing it. I really don't know if
I will be able to make the full 6 weeks before he retests.

Linda

Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:18 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Ouch... I would think that anything that would help you thru the
waiting period would also be interfering with the information they want
to get from testing. On the other hand I'm not sure that major
suffering is actually the doctor's intent. Have you asked him what you
can do if the symptoms just get too bad?

Have you already worked with a homeopath for the problem?
Shannon
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:27 pm
by Gail
I would have to wonder whether that is a standard practise - he would
have to have an incredibly good reason to put you through this misery.
If his reason is that he doesn't believe you need the replacement
therapy and you know you do - Perhaps a different doctor? maybe one
who takes thyroid replacement himself. Is it possible to go back and
see him early, so he can see obvious symptoms for himself rather than
waiting for a blood test. For your appointment make a list of your
symptoms to help keep you on track, fairly close to the top include
the symptom of not being able to organise your thoughts coherently
within a short space of time (makes it difficult to string a sentence
together and state your case). Are you supposed to be working during
this experiment? Perhaps you could request a sick certificate from him
for the duration.

A few things that I have found to be helpful - avoid all chlorine, and
flourine for that matter, both depress the thyroid, so water
filtration is a start. Supplement with B12, preferably sublingual or
injection - don't know why it helps the energy levels but it does.
Also B2 is very important - many of the early low thyroid symptoms are
low B2 symptoms. Magnesium can be a big boost taken as required for
fatigue levels (like Vit C take it to bowel tolerance). The thyroid
has a major role in Magnesium metabolism - many low magnesium symptoms
are also low thyroid symptoms. I have read also that symptoms of low
thyroid are the same ones alleviated by Essential Fatty Acid
supplementation? Avoid watching TV, mobile phones and extended
computer use - thyroid sufferers tend to be very sensitive both to the
low level of whatever it is that comes off the screens but also to the
stressful impact of a constant barrage of news stories and advertising.

Look after yourself, your resources will be stretched very thinly, so
seek out anything that energises you, be it a hobby activity,
particular people, massage, or an exercise like Chi Gung. Similarly,
protect yourself from energy draining activities and people.

Australian Bush Flower Remedy, Old Man Banksia is very good for a low
thyroid, and there are a few others that can help fatigue levels - for
example Banksia Robur, Kapok Bush and Macrocarpa. If these are not
available to you - maybe there is a range of American flowers or shell
essences which would include assistance for exhaustion.

And of course - Google Hypothyroid.

Many sympathies,

Gail A.
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:46 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Gail,
Thanks for that wonderful information! (Filed away! :-) )
And you've sparked a memory--I have learned that for some genetic
groups / metabolic types, the thyroid needs to have vitamin A from fish
oil source--not beta carotene--to help it run right. For those people
50,000 IU (or sometimes even more) per day, for a short period, could
be very helpful. I'm one of those, and for me it's only necessary now
and then, but when I get that droopy feeling it goes away within a few
hours after taking 50,000 IU (and then i do a few more days' worth for
good measure). High unscientific, and no doubt I should take more, but
it seems to work well for me...
Shannon
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:21 pm
by Linda
Shannon I have been taking a omega / fish oil supplement for over a
year because my HDL was at the bottom of the range and have managed
to bring it up with this about 14 points. I don't think my
supplements are that that high a IU, but I could double up for a few
weeks if it would help. Just might give it a try.

Anything that works.

Linda
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:21 pm
by Linda
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Thank you Gail for all of this information. Personally I am not sure
what the full reasoning is other than the fact the endocrinologist is
totally against the use of Armour for low thyroid and my primary doc
is going along with his decision. I was feeling really good as well. \

As for work, it is my job that helps me maintain my sanity. My
husband has multiple health issues that I won't even go into and is
constantly complaining about how bad he feels.

I will be working a double tonight (3rd & regular 1st), this had
already been scheduled before being removed from the meds. I could
have refused to stop them but then when I ran out of my script he
probably wouldn't have refilled it. If it gets bad enough I will haul
myself into his office for a visual. I am a few minutes from leaving
my regular shift and head home, but have been struggling for the past
hour or so just to make it till 2 pm.

Again, if I didn't already say it, thanks for the infomation I will
print it off later tonight.

Linda

Re: Health issues

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:22 pm
by Linda
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I tried to talk to my doc about this but without much luck and no I
haven't worked with a homeopath for the problem as of yet. That may be
my next step.

Linda

Re: Health issues

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:31 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Linda,
Fish oil supplements are terrific, but if you have (as I do) specific
need for the vitamin A, then the fish oil supplements won't (at least I
don't think so) do the job. There are different types of fish oil, and
they have different virtues--different ratios of fatty acids, different
amounts / ratios of vitamins (A, D, and ??). My suggestion would be,
if you want to test out the Vitamin A possibility, get the oil capsules
of A (10,000 IU is the highest that are sold any more, so I take five a
day--or occasionally I've taken five twice a day--for a few days). If
that's made no difference after a few days, then probably it's not an
issue for you. But if you *do* feel better from it, then at least
you'll know the effect you're looking for, and can see whether the fish
oil capsules you're using can do the job too.
Good luck!
Shannon
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:33 am
by Shannon Nelson
Has he explained why he's totally against using Armour--especially if
it seems to have been working for you?
Shannon
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Re: Health issues

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:51 am
by DCR
One additional factor in selecting any oil is their handling, packaging and shelf life. Bulk oils should be in dark glass, cool, and have a good expiration date. Encapsulated oils should be packed in a nitrogen rich environment and packaged in light-tight containers. Even that does not insure the delivery truck did not sit in the sun, or the packaging plant was cool enough, or the store places them near hot display lights etc. etc. etc., but it can often explain why one oil works and another does not, in addition to the information that Shannon points out - the components of the oils vary greatly depending on the fish source and season.