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What is anyone's opinion on taking MSM for a particular disease -
auto immune or any type of skin problem?
Wouldn't it be suppressive?
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I'd doubt it would be suppressive, but presumably palliative rather
than curative--and with "the right remedy" on board, probably not
necessary.
But in absence of "the remedy", might be useful.
Shannon

> I'd doubt it would be suppressive, but presumably palliative rather

I agree.
The effects of MSM can be quite noticeable if a person is
undermethylated. Yet there are some caveats regarding its usage.
For more information, see my articles on "MSM",
also "TCM Excess vs Deficient Constitution" in my Files, and
link to "over- and under-methylated" in my Links.

Carol Willis
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/willis_protocols
Article archive in Files, blog, Links, not a discussion group.

Oooh, I had bad, bad effects in the past from using MSM soap. Changed
sympomts all around. It wasn't precisely suppressive (eruption didn't
disappear) but it FOR SURE was not a good idea. It took a loooong time with
proper homeopathic treatment just to return to initial sx. As far as taking
it orally... I don't know.
Caro.
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When it causes a detox in the body, I would not say it is suppressive or
palliative.
Get rid of accumulated toxins in the body, will be supportive to homeopathic
treatment, creating a more clear picture and freedom for the vital force to
act curatively.
I see this in the same line as the use of Sulphur by Hahanemann as an
intercurrent remedy.
Nowadays it is even worse, it is a fact that modern people do not react as
curative like they did 50 year ago.
This is caused by modern society, stress, intensive vaccination, pollution,
modern nutrition etc.
It is also a part of Homeopathy to understand those causes and when possible
to do something about it.
So when we come to the conclusion that most western people are lacking
organic Sulphur because the food quality is not optimal, a suppletion might
be a good thing to advice (in moderate doses, thanks Carol).

Kind regards, Piet

Many nutrients are required for the body to function. The problem comes when we introduce that nutrient in forms that are not-bioavailable, or too much at a time. Water is vital - salts are vital - vitamins are vital - minerals are vital.

Of coarse they are, but you seem to be missing the point here, we are not
discussing just one mineral nutrient, but a very basic one. Without this one
the resorption of other minerals, vitamins is also decreased.
Of cource is must be provided with optimal amounts of substances which are
natural to the body (orthomolecular).

Kind regards, Piet

I respectfully disagree. The point to which I replied (yes I recognize the discussion began elsewhere) was that some on this list are considering a vital mineral in the context of it being supressive, or palliative, and going so far as to assert that it was not even necessary if the "right remedy was on board".

Hi Donna,
The reason I made the "right remedy" remark is simply that in my
experience, with self and others, after some especially well-acting
remedies, there is no apparent need for any supplementation. I realize
this will not be true for every person or every situation. But I have
a hard time understanding why someone would take a supplement if they
are not having any trouble...? I didn't think you were saying taht
*everyone* should take this (or anything), even if there is no sign of
need?
Shannon
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It would appear the communications are getting a bit blurred. I understood the origin of this thread to be a statement about MSM being a basic nutrient in which some or even most people were deficient. This led to a post that questioned if the supplementation of MSM could be suppresive. Followed by another suggesting it was

If we could get back to the original thread - the concern is that there a deficiency in a specific nutrient that may be causing specific symptoms. That is something we must take into account when taking a case and treating the person. Simply using the 'right remedy' will not correct a mineral (or vitamin) deficiency if the basic materials are not made available to the body. And, if a supplement is needed, it is certainly not palliative or suppresive.

Perhaps I am mistaken, but I don't believe this thread was concerning unnecessary supplementation for those with no symptoms. I do think this thread was a reminder that there are specific nutrients that cause symptoms and we should be aware that diet and supplementation may be appropriate parts of approaching those symptoms.