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At 08:34 AM 5/15/2006, you wrote:
Dear Hahnemann200,

I would expect nothing less than a post like this from you! First of
all Ardavan and I are not slugging it out, etc. We are discussing our
different views in a constructive manner. We are like minded peers who are
studying the miasms and working on how to bring old miasms up to date and
assess new miasms.
Some agreed with some parts and some disagreed. You point was basically
to throw the whole idea of miasms out and just go by individualization
alone. Our point was to remind all that Hahnemann had two methods of case
taking, i.e. the individual for unique diseases and the group case for
collective infections. We noted in Hahnemannian terms the miasms are
collective infectious diseases that effect a homogeneous group of
sufferers. On this basis it is possible to construct a group cases that
offers acute, half acute and chronic genus epidemicus remedies. These
remedies have the power to prevent, abort and treat infections miasms and
their sequels. This method has been used for 150 years and is still in use
today.
To point out that the collective cases is a method that Hahnemann
taught in the Chronic Diseases and Organon is simply pointing out certain
facts. This is a scientific approach to the treatment of acute, half acute
and chronic infections miasms and their sequels. The genus epidemicus
remedies are an integral part of homoeopathic science.
To discuss homoeopathic history and various ideas is GOOD for
homoeopathic education. What we are discussing helps educate people about
the past and points to improvement in the future. I find the study of the
miasms useful and I think the group anamnesis and genus remedies are very
effective. Their is room for expanding our understanding of the use of
acute, half acute and chronic genus remedies into new areas. Collecting
group symptoms, finding remedies, and curing cases in the field is not mere
lip service to Hahnemann. It is following in his footsteps while we bring
the relevant materia up to date for our times.
Yes, suppression is a very valid observation.
Let us not get too carried away with the hyperbole. The traditional
portraits of the symptoms of psora, sycosis, TB, syphilis and cancer that
are relatively homogeneous. Most homoeopaths I know who have learned the
symptoms will come up with similar miasms, although their interpretations
of Causa may be slightly different. A patient who shows up with warts all
over their face and fishy smells is sycotic in most peoples books! This
causes one to look at chronic remedies known for the similar symptoms. I
am not ashamed of the homoeopathic understanding of susceptibility and
infections nor I embarrassed about our cure rate against acute and chronic
infections in the field!
Yes, 150 years of homoeopathic experience counts for something and ALL this
data needs to be reviewed very carefully. This represents generations of
observations that need to be sorted out very carefully. To study this
information does not mean one is rejecting making changes. It means that we
are aware of the fact that their is some valuable data in terms of signs,
symptoms and remedies. We wish to review the past so it can be brought up
to date and corrected where necessary so it can be used in the future.
Where some see confusion other see useful material! The beauty is in the
eyes of beholder!
We are taking a fresh look. Nevertheless, it would be foolish just to
throw the last 150 years of experience spanning several generations of
observation without reviewing it very carefully. As Hering said it is the
duty of all of us to go beyond Hahnemann and correct the errors of the
based. Hering did not say we know best and we should throw out everything
that proceeds us.
Exaggeration is not a scientific method. We do not call everything under
the sun psora. We call the symptoms produced by the suppression of skin
diseases "Psora".
The symptoms in our books on sycosis are based primarily on HPV warts
and gonorrhea N not everything but the kitchen sink. The syphilis study is
not based on bath tubs. It is based on the symptoms of syphilis. These are
both venereal infections. That is the rational explanation without
exaggeration or hyperbole. That we need to review the past material and
make corrections where necessary is also quite rational.
None of the parties involved with this discussion are against the
naming Hepatitis miasm Hepatitis. After all the TB is called the TB miasm.
I have nothing against using such names for new miasms and separating old
miasms if the symptoms show that this should be done. My point, however, is
that we should use the group case method to study each of these infections
so that we know their characteristic symptoms. The allopathic books do not
provide enough information on the mental symptoms, general symptoms,
locations, sensations, modifications, times and concomitants. We can
discover more about each miasm cum infection through group cases than we
can only by reading modern pathology text. We need to record these symptoms
in homoeopathic terms and use our repertories and materia medicas to find
the best genus remedies. This is the essence of the whole idea.
Ardavan and I have similar ideas about the miasms and what should be
done. We both understand that miasms involve symptoms caused by infections
and their suppression. We only differ in what to do with traditional
symptoms of sycosis. Nadar mentioned psora. IMO, Psora is an internal
terrain that is caused by the suppression of skin infections. I am all for
studying the nature of these skin infections by the group cases and
separating them if we find that different microorganisms cause
heterogeneous symptoms on suppression. If the symptoms turn out to be
homogeneous then I suggest leaving well enough alone. It is the same with
sycosis. This is a scientific approach which involves a hypothesis,
predictions, experimental analysis and will produce dependable results. It
is the method that will show what is correct not any individual.
The method for accomplishing a clear understand of the effects of
chronic infections and their suppression is the group case. Our intention
is NOT to prescribe on classification not symptoms. We want to prescribe on
classifications and symptoms. What we are doing is in line with aphorism 82
and103 of the Organon. First we need to make up a group case based on a
pool of persons suffering from the affects of the same chronic infections.
Then we need to assess the characteristic symptoms in the repertory and
materia medica to find the specific chronic genus remedies. Then we needed
to use individualization to find the best genus specific out of this group
for the particular patient. This is the scientific methodology behind the
study of the miasms. If we use this we will have results that will be
homogeneous and stand up to peer review. Yes, this work takes hard work but
that is the only way. Complaining about everything and doing nothing is not
going to help.
First of all, one reviews the subjects and picks out the most
uncomplicated case for the study. Second, the effects of drugs and
suppression IS part of the study. For example, the study of psora includes
the effects of suppression. If the cases is too complicated and difficult
to understand it is left out of the study. Such thing are standard practice
for those who do this work in the field. When one has a protocol to follow
it is not that difficult. Those that try to make everything too complicated
never find solutions.
Yes, this is one angle. It offers some interesting insights. Hahnemann
made it clear the he, however, was taking about infectious diseases and
their sequels. This is an important aspect of medicine.
I believe you are quite wrong here! Yes, he would have much more
information on each infections but he still would have suggested the use of
the group case to understand the characteristic symptoms of the miasms. He
still would have suggest repertorizing the group cases and studing the
materia medica to find specific genus remedies! Hahnemann supplied an
advanced method of studying infections and finding remedies for their
treatment. This is the group anamnesis! This method has proven to supplied
excellent remedies for the prevention and treatment of acute diseases as
well as may great remedies for the cure of chronic complaints. You are
looking in the wrong direction. Look at aphorism 82 and 103 and you will
see we have a game plan that is as effective today as yesterday. I and
others over the last 150 years have used the genus epidemicus method many
times and it has proven effect. Now that we understand the nature of
infection better this method become even MORE USEFUL!
I have been suggesting using both pathological studies of various
microorganism and the group anamnesis right from the start!That is what I
am doing with miasms like chronic hepatitis and others already. Studying
the most modern books along side doing the group cases provides the
characteristic symptoms. AND we SHOULD NOT STOP our discussions of these
subjects and how we should proceed! Ardavan and I are not just "splitting
hairs". We are trying to develop a protocol that will allow us to correct
the errors of the past and include new information. As to Rajan, I may not
agree with all he says but he is welcome to do his own research. One of his
criteria for his anti miasmic remedies is that it has been used in an
infections such as typhoid or malaria, etc.
Hahnemann's miasm hypothesis is very simple. There are acute, half
acute and chronic infections. Acute infections are self limiting acute
diseases like measles or cholera. Half acute miasms are self limiting but
take longer to reach crisis like Rabies. Chronic miasms are life long
infections like syphilis. This has proven correct. The second part is that
the suppression of the infections only makes such diseases more insidious
by robbing them of the outer symptoms. The method for finding remedies for
these infections is based on the characteristic symptoms of the group case.
This is the method to find specific remedies that may prevent, abort or
cure acute, half acute and chronic infections and their sequels. This is a
very precise and well proven method.
Faulty for who? YOU? I have not found the study of infectious diseases and
the study of the group anamnesis method faulty in epidemic and endemic
diseases I have been through several serious epidemics in India including a
meningitis that was killing in 24 to 48 hours and antibiotics were not
working very well. The group anamnesis help me find both curative and
preventative methods. My cases lived and the contacts in the houses never
developed any symptoms. Many others died. This is just one example. What
you call a faulty system has saved many lives and cure many of chronic
diseases.
Those that are well educated know that Hahnemann's miasms is a term for
infectious disease. He made this clear in countless writings. If you wish
to called them "infections" and I wish to called them "miasmic infections"
it makes little difference to the methodology. The methodology Hahnemann
gave us is simple. Study the nature of an infections in the natural world.
Study the nature of the infection in a group of patients. Record the
characteristic symptoms carefully. Study the characteristic symptoms in the
repertory and materia medica. Match the characteristics symptoms of the
group cases with the characteristic symptoms of our remedies. Select a
group of remedies by the symptoms and analogy in accordance with
experience. This will offer a group of specific genus remedies. Now test
the remedies on patients suffering from the target miasm and record the
results. Add any relevant clinical confirmations to the material and record
any new characteristic symptoms brought out by the remedies during
treatment. Add these symptoms if they are dependable and well confirmed.
This is a scientific approach that is valid today as it was in 1843!

This is the method Hahnemann offered us all those years ago and their
is no better method today. Although modern science has helped expand our
understanding of infections and immune system its understanding of these
infections and their sequels are superficial and their symptomology
limited. The remedies they use to treat these infections are crude, toxic
and suppressive and lead to resistant strains and insidious destructive
sequels. This is because they are trying to kill the microorganisms instead
of strengthen the vital force, transforming the inner terrain and
increasing the vitality of the patient. In infections miasms we must treat
the patient not try to kill the germs in a one sided manner! Why? Because
the inner terrain is primary and the germs are secondary!

It is very easy to tear down but hard to build up. Ardavan and I are
like minded persons that are building up our knowledge infectious diseases
and their remedies. We are disagreeing over how to handle some of the
materia from the past but our over all efforts are supportive. Discussion
of ideas is good because we all come out with more than we started. That is
what peers are all about. To imagine such discussions should not take place
is the enemy of true science.

I will not be wasting time going around in circles with Hahnemann200. He
ideas are well expressed and I have said what I think. I am too busy
working with like minded colleagues on studying infections, collecting
groups symptoms, and studying remedies that might be curative to be drag
into long discussions that are really much to do about nothing.

Sincerely, David Little
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000

At 06:37 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote:
Hahnemann200 (don't you have a name?),

Humor can be a form of smoke and mirrors when it clouds the issues. And
your right, I take the practice of medicine very seriously. I my clinical
world the miasms are often a matter of life and death.
Hahnemann's miasms relate to the acute, half acute and chronic
infections. He has no other definition. So homoeopathic epidemiology is the
study of the miasmic infections and their prevention and treatment.
Mineral deficiencies certainly cause changes in the inner terrain that
lead to serious symptoms and open the individual up to infections.
Nevertheless, the miasma Hahnemanni related to infectious diseases and
their mistreatment. Those are the facts found in all his writings. He
called cholera the cholera miasm and noted it was caused by microorganisms,
etc. The causes related to susceptibility to infections, however, is a more
complex area of study. Susceptibility factors are greatly effected by
mental and emotional problems and stress, poor nutrition, bad hygiene,
toxic states, crowding and over population, etc. These are often the cause
of cause when it comes to infectious miasms.

So there are exciting and fundamental causes like acute, half acute and
chronic infections yet their are still deeper proximate causes found in the
life experience of individuals. I work in an environment where I have to
treat serious infectious diseases and face dangerous epidemics at times.
This makes my view of the miasms less metaphysical and transcendental
(chakras, etc) and more medical in nature. That is why I am interested in
the group anamnesis and genus remedies. To me this is a very important
aspect of the study of miasms as infections diseases and their sequels.
Why? It is a matter of life and death.
Causa, symptoms and attendant circumstances are all very important. If
we go by Hahnemann definition of the miasms as infectious states there is
no confusion. Miasms are included in Causa. When the cause involves
infectious diseases this fact become important in understanding the nature
of the disease and its remedies as well as how to manage the case. Miasms
are title for a group of symptoms found in all those suffering from
particular infections diseases. The study of miasms is about symptoms, but
in this case, they are collective in nature.

When one has to treat serious infectious diseases like typhoid,
meningitis, malaria, leprosy, TB, etc., one has a more grounded view of the
miasms. To really understand these diseases we need to study the group
anamnesis because it helps us find genus remedies that can prevent, abort
and treat such diseases. Epidemiology is only one part of medicine but it
is an important part. When the miasms are completely de-linked from
epidemiology all sorts of confusion arises. Get back to the basics and
there is no confusion. Then look at the bigger picture related to proximate
causes which includes heredity, constitution, temperament and
predispositions (nature) as well as environmental factors (nurture).
Ardavan and I both support Hahnemann definition of miasms as acute,
half acute and chronic infections and their sequels. We both also agree
that psora is a title given the symptoms caused by the suppression of skin
infections. Let's keep the fact straight. We both agree in the validity of
the traditional symptoms associated with psora. Read his posts. Our
discussion was on whether we should separate sycosis into HPV, the wart
diseases and gonorrhea Nesseria. My position is simply if the group case
studies show homogeneous symptoms leave well enough alone and if they show
heterogeneous symptoms separate them. We are working on improving our
scientific methods as peers should!
Psora is the chronic effects of infections of the skin and their
suppression. The method of studying the miasms is the group case (Organon
103). This is a very grounded approach. Like the Phosphorus family the
remedies may include variations in the symptoms but they all hold a common
theme. This common theme comes out through the study of the group case.
Chasing one's tail in your mind! You love to criticize other's hard
work, which is always very easy! It takes many years and the tireless work
of many like minded persons to build a medical symptoms and keep it up to
date. That we are willing to work hard on the subject of homoeopathic
epidemiology may make us the butt of your jokes but that doesn't matter.
They have laughed at many scientific minded persons in the past. Use all
the smoke and mirrors you like but that will not stop us from discussing
and studying the nature of infectious diseases and their sequels.
UFOs??? Your are flying off into space again! Psora is simply the chronic
effects of the suppression of skin diseases. This is a very precise
definition. The symptoms that the suppression of psora produces are
recorded by the group case. These symptoms are then studied in the
repertory and materia medica. This is what has lead to the classification
of remedies as "antipsoric". Please refer to Organon 82 and 103 for the
details. These same methods can be applied to all chronic miasms. Hering
suggested that we may have to classify subspecies of psora. That is what we
are working on. There may be a general category and then specific
subcategories of subspecies over time. That you wish to put all these
efforts down is your problem not ours.
Various genus remedies for epidemics have been shared many times. So has
preventative remedies. That is the practical use of the study of miasms as
infections diseases.
When one understand that miasms are the effects of infections and
suppression then one enters the realm of homoeopathic epidemiology. The
method for investigating these infections is the group anamnesis. This
leads to specific genus remedies that have the power to prevent. abort and
treat the acute, half acute and chronic miasms. This is only one part of
Homoeopathy but it is a very important part. That is way I am working on
bringing this materia up to date and expanding it into new areas.
If one understands miasm as infections and the role of the group case in
finding acute and chronic genus remedies the subject of the miasms become
clear and the method very practical in clinical world. When the miasms are
de-linked from its original paradigm s infectious diseses processes
confusion arises. When miasms become everything they become nothing.

Sincerely, David Little

---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000

David,
I am so very grateful to you for taking the time to answer posts. I have learned much from your labor of love. Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the science of homeopathy. Your answers allow me to appriciate the nuances that perhaps escaped me before. There is a "Little" library on my computer with your posts.
Thank you again for your being here,
Brian Garnant

David Little wrote:
At 06:37 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote:
Hahnemann200 (don't you have a name?),

Humor can be a form of smoke and mirrors when it clouds the issues. And
your right, I take the practice of medicine very seriously. I my clinical
world the miasms are often a matter of life and death.
Hahnemann's miasms relate to the acute, half acute and chronic
infections. He has no other definition. So homoeopathic epidemiology is the
study of the miasmic infections and their prevention and treatment.
Mineral deficiencies certainly cause changes in the inner terrain that
lead to serious symptoms and open the individual up to infections.
Nevertheless, the miasma Hahnemanni related to infectious diseases and
their mistreatment. Those are the facts found in all his writings. He
called cholera the cholera miasm and noted it was caused by microorganisms,
etc. The causes related to susceptibility to infections, however, is a more
complex area of study. Susceptibility factors are greatly effected by
mental and emotional problems and stress, poor nutrition, bad hygiene,
toxic states, crowding and over population, etc. These are often the cause
of cause when it comes to infectious miasms.

So there are exciting and fundamental causes like acute, half acute and
chronic infections yet their are still deeper proximate causes found in the
life experience of individuals. I work in an environment where I have to
treat serious infectious diseases and face dangerous epidemics at times.
This makes my view of the miasms less metaphysical and transcendental
(chakras, etc) and more medical in nature. That is why I am interested in
the group anamnesis and genus remedies. To me this is a very important
aspect of the study of miasms as infections diseases and their sequels.
Why? It is a matter of life and death.
Causa, symptoms and attendant circumstances are all very important. If
we go by Hahnemann definition of the miasms as infectious states there is
no confusion. Miasms are included in Causa. When the cause involves
infectious diseases this fact become important in understanding the nature
of the disease and its remedies as well as how to manage the case. Miasms
are title for a group of symptoms found in all those suffering from
particular infections diseases. The study of miasms is about symptoms, but
in this case, they are collective in nature.

When one has to treat serious infectious diseases like typhoid,
meningitis, malaria, leprosy, TB, etc., one has a more grounded view of the
miasms. To really understand these diseases we need to study the group
anamnesis because it helps us find genus remedies that can prevent, abort
and treat such diseases. Epidemiology is only one part of medicine but it
is an important part. When the miasms are completely de-linked from
epidemiology all sorts of confusion arises. Get back to the basics and
there is no confusion. Then look at the bigger picture related to proximate
causes which includes heredity, constitution, temperament and
predispositions (nature) as well as environmental factors (nurture).
Ardavan and I both support Hahnemann definition of miasms as acute,
half acute and chronic infections and their sequels. We both also agree
that psora is a title given the symptoms caused by the suppression of skin
infections. Let's keep the fact straight. We both agree in the validity of
the traditional symptoms associated with psora. Read his posts. Our
discussion was on whether we should separate sycosis into HPV, the wart
diseases and gonorrhea Nesseria. My position is simply if the group case
studies show homogeneous symptoms leave well enough alone and if they show
heterogeneous symptoms separate them. We are working on improving our
scientific methods as peers should!
Psora is the chronic effects of infections of the skin and their
suppression. The method of studying the miasms is the group case (Organon
103). This is a very grounded approach. Like the Phosphorus family the
remedies may include variations in the symptoms but they all hold a common
theme. This common theme comes out through the study of the group case.
Chasing one's tail in your mind! You love to criticize other's hard
work, which is always very easy! It takes many years and the tireless work
of many like minded persons to build a medical symptoms and keep it up to
date. That we are willing to work hard on the subject of homoeopathic
epidemiology may make us the butt of your jokes but that doesn't matter.
They have laughed at many scientific minded persons in the past. Use all
the smoke and mirrors you like but that will not stop us from discussing
and studying the nature of infectious diseases and their sequels.
UFOs??? Your are flying off into space again! Psora is simply the chronic
effects of the suppression of skin diseases. This is a very precise
definition. The symptoms that the suppression of psora produces are
recorded by the group case. These symptoms are then studied in the
repertory and materia medica. This is what has lead to the classification
of remedies as "antipsoric". Please refer to Organon 82 and 103 for the
details. These same methods can be applied to all chronic miasms. Hering
suggested that we may have to classify subspecies of psora. That is what we
are working on. There may be a general category and then specific
subcategories of subspecies over time. That you wish to put all these
efforts down is your problem not ours.
Various genus remedies for epidemics have been shared many times. So has
preventative remedies. That is the practical use of the study of miasms as
infections diseases.
When one understand that miasms are the effects of infections and
suppression then one enters the realm of homoeopathic epidemiology. The
method for investigating these infections is the group anamnesis. This
leads to specific genus remedies that have the power to prevent. abort and
treat the acute, half acute and chronic miasms. This is only one part of
Homoeopathy but it is a very important part. That is way I am working on
bringing this materia up to date and expanding it into new areas.
If one understands miasm as infections and the role of the group case in
finding acute and chronic genus remedies the subject of the miasms become
clear and the method very practical in clinical world. When the miasms are
de-linked from its original paradigm s infectious diseses processes
confusion arises. When miasms become everything they become nothing.

Sincerely, David Little

---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000
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At 07:33 PM 5/17/2006, you wrote:

The study of Causa in important in homoeopathic medicine. Causa
includes inner and out causes, individual and collective causes, traumatic
causes, toxic causes, nutritional causes, emotional causes, environmental
induced causes and other non infectious and was well as infectious
diseases, etc. Hippocrates rightly taught that most diseases are caused by
an aetiological constellation involving a number of interdependent factors
rather than one single agent. Some of these causes follow linear cause and
effect while others seem to just "befall" the patient as a non linear
synchronism. Unexpected accidental or idiopathic symptoms can seem to just
appear as their causal elements are not visible. So the study of Causa must
involve the bigger picture. Not all causes are called "miasms".

First of all I must say that I follow Hahnemann's definition of the
miasms as the affects of infectious diseases and their sequels! He has no
other definition. Miasms are the basis of homoeopathic epidemiology and the
group case is the method of finding acute, half acute and chronic genus
remedies that may prevent and treat these diseases. There are two forms of
miasms i.e. the acquired and inherited. Acquired miasms are infections
experienced in this life. The person actually has psora-leprosy, psora
-mites or psora-tinea, which most likely has been suppressed. The affects
of inherited miasms are passed through family lineages as seen in the
children of tubercular parents, etc. They tend to mimic tubercular symptoms
like constant swollen glands, coughs, fevers, sweats, losing weight even if
eating well, etc. although they don't have the TB bacteria. These children
are very susceptible to TB infection nd often acquire it in this life. Many
people in the West somehow never include this aspect of homoeopathic
practice. Miasms become everything but nfectious diseases and their sequels.

It is important to point out constitution, temperament, predisposition
and environment are major condition factors in susceptibility and the
symptoms of disease. Hahnemann made this clear in the Organon and Chronic
Diseases. Inherited miasms are closely integrated in the constitution and
temperament so once again this shows that life is a circle of
interdependent origin. No all inherited states are "miasms". If the parents
don't have enough food because they are poor this will damage their
constitutions and the constitutions of their children. If children do not
get sufficient nutrition in the first 5 years the mental and physical
health can be severely damaged for life. This is a nutritional disease and
is not caused by "miasms". Nevertheless, nutritional deficiencies open
these children up to a host of acute and chronic miasms that may threaten
their lives. They are much more likely to suffer serious complications and
die from measles or other childhood diseases and are open to chronic
infections like psoric-staphylococcal skin infections and TB miasma. This
is a vicious circle.

Other children may be born with inherited psora or TB miasm which makes
them prone to nutrition mal-assimilation. They may have enough food but
they do not assimilate it. They may be hungry and eat as much food as
everyone else but they thin, malnourished and go into decline. They are
also open to a host of infections and serious complications. This is also a
vicious circle. Is it any wonder that in orient they call these circular
patterns the wheel of life and death? One has to look into all these
potentially interdependent causes and see how they work together rather
than just call everything "miasms". That was never Hahnemann's intention.
Boenninghausen spoke in detail about causation in Homoeopathy in Concerning
the Value of Characteristic Symptoms under the title Why? This article in
found in his Lesser Writings. It is well worth reading!

Sincerely, David Little
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000