At 04:48 AM 3/19/2006 -0000, you wrote:
Titers only show exposure (contrary to what 'they' tell you ). Yes, you
can use their system to get out vaccines. But just becaues there is a
titer for antibodies to a certain disease, doesn't mean there is immunity.
It just means exposure. Drug companies use titers increasing to 'prove'
their vaccines give immunity and it is no proof at all and vaccines do not
give immunity.
And your Vietnames friend doesn't need vaccines even if her titers were
fine. Vaccines are not required for travel to VietNam (but the allopaths
like you to think they are)
Sheri
Antibody titers do NOT = immunity
Much of what conventional studies use for 'proof' a vaccine 'works' and
'gives immunity' are increased antibody titres after administration of the
vaccine. As you can see - that is a fallacy
Antibodies are just one aspect of the immune system. They show there has
been exposure. PERIOD. If there are antibodies after experiencing a
disease, they may mean immunity as the rest of the immune system was
mobilized - all aspects. With vaccines, much of the immune system is
bypassed - TH1 (mouth, nose, throat and all aspects of immune system that
gets mobilized there). Only TH2 responds (simplified a bit here). So
antibodies do NOT mean immunity. All aspects need to be measured and for
the most part they have no clue how to do that or even what to measure and
what actually indicates immunity.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...8&dopt=Abstract
From the journal - Vaccine. PMID: 11587808
ARTICLE: What are the limits of adjuvanticity? Del Giudice G, Podda A,
"Finally, adjuvanticity is more often evaluated in terms of
antigen-specific antibody titers induced after parenteral immunization. It
is known that, in many instances, antigen-specific antibody titers do not
correlate with protection." Vaccine. PMID: 11587808
ARTICLE:
What are the limits of adjuvanticity?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...%22%5BAuthor%5D
Del Giudice G,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...%22%5BAuthor%5D
Podda A,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...%22%5BAuthor%5D
Rappuoli R.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/nyregion/22CHAS.html
January 22, 2004
Merrill W. Chase Is Dead at 98; Scientist Who Advanced Immunology
By ANAHAD O'CONNOR
Dr. Merrill W. Chase, an immunologist whose research on white blood cells
helped undermine the longstanding belief that antibodies alone protected
the body from disease and micro-organisms, died on Jan. 5 at his home in
New York City, according to the Rockefeller University, where he worked for
70 years. He was 98.
Dr. Chase made his landmark discovery in the early 1940's while working
with Dr. Karl Landsteiner, a Nobel laureate recognized for his work
identifying the human blood groups. At the time, experts believed that the
body mounted its attacks against pathogens primarily through antibodies
circulating in the blood stream, known as humoral immunity.
But Dr. Chase, working in his laboratory, stumbled upon something that
appeared to shatter that widespread tenet.
As he tried to immunize a guinea pig against a disease using antibodies he
had extracted from a second pig, he found that blood serum did not work as
the transfer agent.
Not until he used white blood cells did the immunity carry over to the oher
guinea pig, providing solid evidence that it could not be antibodies alone
orchestrating the body's immune response.
Dr. Chase had uncovered the second arm of the immune system, or
cell-mediated immunity. His finding became the groundwork for later
research that pinpointed B cells, T cells and other types of white blood
cells as the body's central safeguards against infection.
"This was a major discovery because everyone now thinks of the immune
response in two parts, and in many instances it's the cellular components
that are more important," said Dr. Michel Nussenzweig, a professor of
immunology at Rockefeller. "Before Chase, there was only humoral immunity.
After him, there was humoral and cellular immunity."
Dr. Chase's breakthrough generated little interest at the time, but it set
in motion the research that helped redefine the fundamental nature of the
immune system.
"So many areas of medicine rely on this type of reaction that he clearly
distinguished as not being antibody mediated," said Dr. Ralph Steinman, a
professor of cellular physiology and immunology at Rockefeller. "People
never anticipated that there would be something other than antibodies. It
was an amazing finding."
Born in Providence, R.I., in 1905, Merrill Wallace Chase earned his
bachelor's degree and doctorate from Brown. He taught biology there for a
year, before joining the faculty at Rockefeller in 1932 as an assistant to
Dr. Landsteiner. He has published at least 150 scientific papers.
In 1975, he was elected to the National Academy of Sciences
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Dr John B March, a well-known scientist who develops animal vaccines UK,
"So animal vaccines are actually subjected to far more rigorous safety
testing than human vaccines. But animal trials also raise another worrying
question about the human triple jab: how effective is it? Human trials
generally correlate "antibody" responses with protection - that is if the
body produces antibodies (proteins) which bind to vaccine components, then
it must be working and safe. Yet Dr March says antibody response is
generally a poor measure of protection and no indicator at all of safety.
"Particularly for viral diseases, the 'cellular' immune response is all
important, and antibody levels and protection are totally unconnected.""
a well - known and respected vaccine researcher and even he says the above
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Antibody Theory
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/antibody.html
Quotes Disease theory
Antibodies used as measure of immunity:
"He said the normal trials on a new vaccine were not possible in Britain
because of the relatively small numbers of people who contracted the
disease. Instead scientists had tested whether the vaccine produced
sufficient antibodies."--Media report on meningitis C vaccine
more at webpage and I have much more if interested
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