I hate these things.
I do NOT agree that viruses cause the symptoms labeled as flu..............so how does it help to give some product with so-called viruses.
We've been down this road before.
Sighhhhhhhhhhh
Sheri
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comdyne2002
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Re: Flu
I totally agree! I've never been convinced that there is such an entity as a virus. The explanation often given is that a virus is a chunk of protein that is not living. It somehow sneaks past the protective cellular membrane and wiggles its way into the RNA/DNA strand structure thus modifying it. How does something by definition isn't living? With no means of propulsion or any other form of mobility, how is such a feat possible?
My contention is that what are called viruses are actually untra-miniture baby bacteria capable of filter-passing. Dr. Rife proved this with hit heterodyning light microscopes of the 1920s and 30s.
The reason that "viruses" are not impacted by anti-bacterial fungi called "anti-biotics" is that the juvenile bacteria don't replicate. The action of antibiotics only occurs during the replication process, something the baby bacteria can't do.
This Ebola scare tactic is laughable. It has been well established that Ebola is food born and is not contagious unless body fluids are exchanged. The Ebola probably won't kill you; the vaccine probably will. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
My contention is that what are called viruses are actually untra-miniture baby bacteria capable of filter-passing. Dr. Rife proved this with hit heterodyning light microscopes of the 1920s and 30s.
The reason that "viruses" are not impacted by anti-bacterial fungi called "anti-biotics" is that the juvenile bacteria don't replicate. The action of antibiotics only occurs during the replication process, something the baby bacteria can't do.
This Ebola scare tactic is laughable. It has been well established that Ebola is food born and is not contagious unless body fluids are exchanged. The Ebola probably won't kill you; the vaccine probably will. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Flu
Because the prophylaxis with the nosode does not deal with the picture of the flu, but with giving to the system the information that "here comes a category of aggressor that you should be able to deal with".
The picture you see depends on the patient, the environment, the nutrition, etc,....of course if you use a viral nosode to deal with a bacterial epidemic, it is not going to work. But using the same class of "bug" (similarity, not identity) will.
A beautiful example was accidentally given in the sixties-seventies in India, where the government tried a mass vaccination against tuberculosis. It failed completely........but there was a drastic drop in leprosy cases: both diseases caused by different strains of Mycobaterium.
Joe.
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The picture you see depends on the patient, the environment, the nutrition, etc,....of course if you use a viral nosode to deal with a bacterial epidemic, it is not going to work. But using the same class of "bug" (similarity, not identity) will.
A beautiful example was accidentally given in the sixties-seventies in India, where the government tried a mass vaccination against tuberculosis. It failed completely........but there was a drastic drop in leprosy cases: both diseases caused by different strains of Mycobaterium.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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healthinfo6
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Re: Flu
In some cases we have made a true Nosode, ie a patients mucus as opposed to a purified viral culture.
This has been a persistent cold virus. I'm still sick.
Is it feasible to send one's own mucus sample to Helios or another homeopathic pharmacy that can potentize into a nosode? Then one would have their own cold remedy whenever needed?
I know you can send Helios items to produce a remedy,not sure about disease products.
Susan
This has been a persistent cold virus. I'm still sick.
Is it feasible to send one's own mucus sample to Helios or another homeopathic pharmacy that can potentize into a nosode? Then one would have their own cold remedy whenever needed?
I know you can send Helios items to produce a remedy,not sure about disease products.
Susan
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Sheri Nakken
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Re: Flu
Same faulty rationale used for vaccines.
I still see no need for something like this to prevent the flu.
Sheri
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I still see no need for something like this to prevent the flu.
Sheri
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Flu
Your opinion, your choice....be my guest.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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Vicki Satta
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Re: Flu
Sorry to hear that Susan.
Yes, but you don't have to send it to Helios! I just sent tissue to a trusted pharmacy/tincutura in San Diego for a different problem (not the flu). This is a moment of great happiness for me because I have great confidence in her and in my homeopath who suggested it. I will report back to the group when I get the remedies and heal.
I assume all you would need to do is blow your nose or take a swab of the "stuff" in your nostrils or your lungs and then mark them left and right... and preserve it in the alcohol you use for medicinal solutions (like I did w/brandy) and send it off.
Let's wait a bit though so I can tell you the full story of my healing... 2014 was a very difficult year for me, but I felt that the burst of spring and new life has been given to me. This morning I woke up as the sun was arising. I always peek out the blinds to see if there is any new snow because no matter how cold it is, I have to go walk my dogs in it. This morning the Western sky from my balcony was the totally beautiful baby blue Colorado sky and all clouds were pink! I knew that it was the ultimate message that a birth (of health and well being) had been created in the lab! You know how that is when the universe communicates with you directly and without doubt? That was the message I received this morning!
Yea!
Vicki
Yes, but you don't have to send it to Helios! I just sent tissue to a trusted pharmacy/tincutura in San Diego for a different problem (not the flu). This is a moment of great happiness for me because I have great confidence in her and in my homeopath who suggested it. I will report back to the group when I get the remedies and heal.
I assume all you would need to do is blow your nose or take a swab of the "stuff" in your nostrils or your lungs and then mark them left and right... and preserve it in the alcohol you use for medicinal solutions (like I did w/brandy) and send it off.
Let's wait a bit though so I can tell you the full story of my healing... 2014 was a very difficult year for me, but I felt that the burst of spring and new life has been given to me. This morning I woke up as the sun was arising. I always peek out the blinds to see if there is any new snow because no matter how cold it is, I have to go walk my dogs in it. This morning the Western sky from my balcony was the totally beautiful baby blue Colorado sky and all clouds were pink! I knew that it was the ultimate message that a birth (of health and well being) had been created in the lab! You know how that is when the universe communicates with you directly and without doubt? That was the message I received this morning!
Yea!
Vicki
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Flu
Dear Sheri
When someone with flu in a room/taxi/bus/aircraft etc sneezes and then some of the people in that environment go on to have flu, what is it that transmits the same kind of symptoms? In other words, what is common in epidemics?
Rgds
Soroush
PS – Although Hahnemann did not have microscopes, he had worked it out!!
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 10 January 2015 22:14
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Flu
I hate these things.
I do NOT agree that viruses cause the symptoms labeled as flu..............so how does it help to give some product with so-called viruses.
We've been down this road before.
Sighhhhhhhhhhh
Sheri
At 02:10 PM 1/10/2015, you wrote:
________________________________
Sheri Nakken, former RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
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Next classes start in December
When someone with flu in a room/taxi/bus/aircraft etc sneezes and then some of the people in that environment go on to have flu, what is it that transmits the same kind of symptoms? In other words, what is common in epidemics?
Rgds
Soroush
PS – Although Hahnemann did not have microscopes, he had worked it out!!
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 10 January 2015 22:14
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Flu
I hate these things.
I do NOT agree that viruses cause the symptoms labeled as flu..............so how does it help to give some product with so-called viruses.
We've been down this road before.
Sighhhhhhhhhhh
Sheri
At 02:10 PM 1/10/2015, you wrote:
________________________________
Sheri Nakken, former RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
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Next classes start in December
Re: Flu
Lynn, i'm saving this message. thank you enormously.
Rachel
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From: "Lynn Cremona freelynn@optonline.net [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Flu
These are the responses from the following Homeopathic Pharmacies when I asked them about the source of their Influenzinum Remedies.
Some of the Influenzinums marketed by Nelson's of London are as follows:
1. Influenzinum (the 1918 epidemic)
2. Influenza virus A Asia/57
3. Influenza virus A England/42/72
4. Influenza virus B Hong Kong 5/72
5. Influenza virus A/Port Chalmers/1/73
6. Influenza virus A (Asian) 1954
7. Influenza virus B (Asian) 1954
8. Bacillus influenza 1918
9. Influenza virus Az Hong Kong 1968
10. Influenza virus Ar 1967
11. Influenza virus B
12. Influenza Co. (Combination of Az to 1918) ?
13. Influenza virus a1.
Helios
10/14/10
Our Influenzinum from 200c upwards is the Nosode of the original Spanish flu (H1N1) of 1918.
Regards Judi at Helios
Ainsworth
We have many samples of Influenzinum in stock at Ainsworths.
The main one is a very old flu sample dating back over thirty years.(pre 1985)
The majority of samples are made from the annual flu jab so are dated and
typed with the annual assortment of prevalent flu viruses.
Generally flu jabs are composed of three viral strains and these vary from one
year to the next. In principle any single strain is homoeopathic by nature of its
similarity to a potential symptom picture.
In some cases we have made a true Nosode, ie a patients mucus as opposed to a purified viral culture.
In essence we have discovered Homoeoprophylaxis is more effective with purified cultures and the individual nosode works well in higher potency for a symptom picture that started with a flu, ie chronic Eustachian congestion
Regards
Tony Pinkus
TonyPinkus@ainsworths.com
The Simillimum Pharmacy in Wellington NZ, orders@arnica.co.nz
mailto:orders%40arnica.co.nz Has the remedy made from the 1918 virus
Natural Health Supply, New Mexico USA
http://www.a2zhomeopathy.com/
Influenzinum is from the 1918 virus, per Jim Klemmer
Best,
Lynn
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Rachel
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From: "Lynn Cremona freelynn@optonline.net [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Flu
These are the responses from the following Homeopathic Pharmacies when I asked them about the source of their Influenzinum Remedies.
Some of the Influenzinums marketed by Nelson's of London are as follows:
1. Influenzinum (the 1918 epidemic)
2. Influenza virus A Asia/57
3. Influenza virus A England/42/72
4. Influenza virus B Hong Kong 5/72
5. Influenza virus A/Port Chalmers/1/73
6. Influenza virus A (Asian) 1954
7. Influenza virus B (Asian) 1954
8. Bacillus influenza 1918
9. Influenza virus Az Hong Kong 1968
10. Influenza virus Ar 1967
11. Influenza virus B
12. Influenza Co. (Combination of Az to 1918) ?
13. Influenza virus a1.
Helios
10/14/10
Our Influenzinum from 200c upwards is the Nosode of the original Spanish flu (H1N1) of 1918.
Regards Judi at Helios
Ainsworth
We have many samples of Influenzinum in stock at Ainsworths.
The main one is a very old flu sample dating back over thirty years.(pre 1985)
The majority of samples are made from the annual flu jab so are dated and
typed with the annual assortment of prevalent flu viruses.
Generally flu jabs are composed of three viral strains and these vary from one
year to the next. In principle any single strain is homoeopathic by nature of its
similarity to a potential symptom picture.
In some cases we have made a true Nosode, ie a patients mucus as opposed to a purified viral culture.
In essence we have discovered Homoeoprophylaxis is more effective with purified cultures and the individual nosode works well in higher potency for a symptom picture that started with a flu, ie chronic Eustachian congestion
Regards
Tony Pinkus
TonyPinkus@ainsworths.com
The Simillimum Pharmacy in Wellington NZ, orders@arnica.co.nz
mailto:orders%40arnica.co.nz Has the remedy made from the 1918 virus
Natural Health Supply, New Mexico USA
http://www.a2zhomeopathy.com/
Influenzinum is from the 1918 virus, per Jim Klemmer
Best,
Lynn
--
Imagine Peace
http://www.homeopathicsolutions.blogspot.com
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