Siddha and Ayurveda as Homeopathy

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

By all means!


Simon

[Shannon Nelson]

Ooooh, that's too easy! I've, er, um, had pretty much *exactly* that
experience of certain religious groups... Beginning about age 6 when I
was told, "You have to accept that you're a miserable sinner so that
you can ask to be SAVED!" Mm, at age six, I felt neither miserable,
nor sinnerish! And haven't gotten over either deficiency yet, LOL!

[Shannon Nelson]

Not everything natural is pitfall-free... Even crossing the street can
kill you if you do it wrong (like when a car's coming)--that's why we
take instruction from others with more experience! Stuff like crossing
the street we get from mom and dad, etc. Stuff about Kundalini and
spiritual practices, we may need to get from other people.

I don't know, Simon... While your point of view appeals to me
emotionally, I've known people who got themselves pretty badly messed
up with "natural" things--most of those did it with drugs (some
"natural" and some not), but I'm recalling one who made himself a
basket case thru (really!) excessive meditating.

He was quite likely "mentally or emotionally unwell" prior to
that--which, of course, is *why* he carried that beautiful, healthful
practice to a gross and harmful excess. I've known other people who've
messed themselves up in various ways, by doing "natural" things to
point of harmful excess. They of course didn't *know* they were going
to point of harmful excess, tho accepting guidance would have warned
them! I'm don't *think* I'm especially neurotic...
Shannon

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

Well indeed it might be a fine line at times but to my way of thinking
those that meditated excessively were likely trying to use it to
suppress emotions, or it should demonstrate the effect of their
miasmatic background (sycotic excess?) This would fall into the
category of not being well prior to the practice (ooops I mean
'discipline ) in my book. I too know some that overdid it, but none
that got ill from it, except those that over-fasted , or had too
zealous an adherence to the brown rice diet!

In my experience those that go off the rails ( i.e. for whom the
discipline is harmful were only those that you wouldn't have said were
OK in the first place. As far as I can guage this applies to the
examples you give . I have also said in another post that a teacher IS
required. As far as getting messed up with drugs, natural or not, that
is a completely separate subject! .

I see what you say about something's naturalness not equating to
safeness, and agree in most instances, however I'm not so sure when it
comes to spiritual discipline, unless the discipline itself is
unnatural (some are!:-)). No doubt some teachers have interesting
techniques not to be embarked upon but by the most courageous, but
whether it will give the the result they seek only their heart can
judge.

Simon

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

Hi Chis, this is the last reply I will post on this topic not just
because Saroush can't handle it, but because it is getting off topic
(Classical Homeopathy as opposed to Classical Homosexuality)

comments below...

Simon
# anyone who does that has not thought it through in my opinion. There
was even a comment from one lecturer to that effect at my college and
I remonstrated with him at some length, initially questioning the
'naturalness of war and pointing out that most people killed in them
are heterosexuals by heterosexuals. ( but as previously mentioned this
is getting way off topic)
# ridiculous question in my book - I haver never heard an enlightened
person ask it!
(just so there is no confusion as emails can do that I mean OF COURSE
anyone, IRRESPECTIVE of ANY proclivity, sexual, political, whatever,
can attain what we commonly call enlightenment).
The idea that a particular sexual persuasion exempts one is just plain
ignorant.
#this really is off topic, so I will only comment that I do not
disagree with you.

#actually I said two OR MORE (another lame joke!

[Joy Lucas]

Just tuppence worth from me because I feel these borderline topics
actually are very relevant to health and how we 'view' our clients - I
would say there is a question mark regarding enlightenment through
sexuality of any persuasion because sex, per se, is purely for the
continuation of the species, the layer of the pleasure principal is
something else entirely. The enlightenment comes from our observation
of how societies and individuals react, i.e. their prejudices or
compassions. Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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[Simon King LCPH MARH]

Just to make one point clear, in my comments I was not referring to
'enlightenment THROUGH sexuality' - categorically not. (of any
persuasion)

This discussion would now need to move into the area of defining
'enlightenment' (which is obviously off topic) in order top progress
it.
Simon