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Re: Addiction

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:09 pm
by Laurence
Much appreciated; thanks.
Laurencce

Re: Addiction

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:33 pm
by Homeopathic Doctor
No remedy can ever help if the sufferer lacks the determination to quit addiction. I started smoking in 1971 and continued till 1996, with a daily average of 20-25 cigarettes. The only good habit in it was that I never smoked empty-stomach. During all this period, I stopped smoking for only a few months. It was for my younger sister who asked with so much concern that I stopped. Then we had a family dispute and we both quitted talking and so I started again smoking. In 1996, on the birthday of my youngest daughter, she refused to take her present from me and demanded her only birthday present would be that I stop smoking and that she does not want me to die of cancer. These health shows on TV channels are so absurd at times...smile!!! I left abruptly (both times) and nothing of the side symptoms ever happened. My appetite, excretions, sleep, cough...nothing adverse. All Improved. So out of my personal experience, it is all psychological that quitting an addiction would produce such and such symptoms. May be, it happens in alcohol, or morphine etc but never in smoking. So if anyone wants to quit, make up your mind and thrust with full heart and determination...don't fix dates, or reduce the number gradually...JUST ABRUPTLY...if you have a strong reason...everything will turn in your favor and nothing adverse will ever appear...it is my belief and experience...pray for your success.
Zaidee.

Re: Addiction

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:01 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Ouch, Zaidee, that is *your* experience. You are only one person, and your experience is not everyone's experience.

Different people have different susceptibilities: While some can quit with only determination (their own or someone else's :-) ) and without side-effects; for others it's a true addiction, and side-effects from quitting are intense.

True addiction becomes more likely the longer a person has smoked; the more heavily they smoked; and the younger they were when they began. My brother began inhaling at about age 13 and smoked heavily for 37 years (until his death of cancer at age 50). Over some years he tried three times *that I know of* to quit. The third time was followed rather quickly (about 3 weeks after quitting?) by sudden and severe Bell's Palsy--which we read only years later is an occasional effect when a heavy smoker stops all at once; it's recommended instead to begin by reducing the smoking, and supporting detox. After that episode (which he healed from only incompletely) he fought continually to keep his smoking reduced, but never again had the heart to try quitting.

To generalize from one's *own* experience, and assume that therefore everyone else's situation is the same, is unrealstic, illogical, and not borne out by having a careful, thoughtful, unprejudiced examination of the experiences of a wider number of people.

Give thanks for your sister, your daughter, and those absurd health shows! :-)

Shannon
No remedy can ever help if the sufferer lacks the determination to quit addiction. I started smoking in 1971 and continued till 1996, with a daily average of 20-25 cigarettes. The only good habit in it was that I never smoked empty-stomach. During all this period, I stopped smoking for only a few months. It was for my younger sister who asked with so much concern that I stopped. Then we had a family dispute and we both quitted talking and so I started again smoking. In 1996, on the birthday of my youngest daughter, she refused to take her present from me and demanded her only birthday present would be that I stop smoking and that she does not want me to die of cancer. These health shows on TV channels are so absurd at times...smile!!! I left abruptly (both times) and nothing of the side symptoms ever happened. My appetite, excretions, sleep, cough...nothing adverse. All Improved. So out of my personal experience, it is all psychological that quitting an addiction would produce such and such symptoms. May be, it happens in alcohol, or morphine etc but never in smoking. So if anyone wants to quit, make up your mind and thrust with full heart and determination...don't fix dates, or reduce the number gradually...JUST ABRUPTLY...if you have a strong reason...everything will turn in your favor and nothing adverse will ever appear...it is my belief and experience...pray for your success.
Zaidee.

Re: Addiction

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:44 pm
by Rochelle Marsden
I also quit abruptly 24 years ago. I used to open the window to do deep breathing when I needed a cigarette. Again it was because my children went on at me to quit that I stopped.A couple of years later I tried to smoke a cigarette again but it tasted so disgusting in my mouth that I didn't want to know and wondered how I could have ever smoked!! I also watched my diet at the same time as I had seen my husband who had quit 2 years previously put on 4 stone and no way was I doing that!!!!! I chewed gum for about a week until I nearly bit through my tongue I was chewing so hard. That really frightened me :-)
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Addiction

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:56 pm
by Shannon Nelson
I had some dim memory that sunflower seeds are supposed to help reduce the craving. Googling on
"smoking sunflower seeds" (hm, interesting idea :-) ) brings up a number of interesting looking hits, but e.g. this one, from http://www.bigy.com/content/haba_health ... _seeds.php: "He [I didn't read who] also suggests them as part of a stop-smoking program, having people in the program munch on raw, unshelled, unsalted sunflower seeds, which in addition to their medicinal properties, gives them something to do with their hands and mouth.

Again, raw sunflower seeds are probably the best, higher in nutrition than roasted and definitely better than salted seeds."
No remedy can ever help if the sufferer lacks the determination to quit addiction. I started smoking in 1971 and continued till 1996, with a daily average of 20-25 cigarettes. The only good habit in it was that I never smoked empty-stomach. During all this period, I stopped smoking for only a few months. It was for my younger sister who asked with so much concern that I stopped. Then we had a family dispute and we both quitted talking and so I started again smoking. In 1996, on the birthday of my youngest daughter, she refused to take her present from me and demanded her only birthday present would be that I stop smoking and that she does not want me to die of cancer. These health shows on TV channels are so absurd at times...smile!!! I left abruptly (both times) and nothing of the side symptoms ever happened. My appetite, excretions, sleep, cough...nothing adverse. All Improved. So out of my personal experience, it is all psychological that quitting an addiction would produce such and such symptoms. May be, it happens in alcohol, or morphine etc but never in smoking. So if anyone wants to quit, make up your mind and thrust with full heart and determination...don't fix dates, or reduce the number gradually...JUST ABRUPTLY...if you have a strong reason...everything will turn in your favor and nothing adverse will ever appear...it is my belief and experience...pray for your success.
Zaidee.