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Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:17 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Perhaps her clients ought to talk amongst themselves, and make sure to tell
her what's happening. If no one is *telling* her what's happening, she can
be forgiven for not knowing... Because the next step after that would be to
have someone sue her, which is surely not in *anyone's* best interest!

Shannon
on 8/14/02 12:10 PM, Magda Aguila at aquiline@statecom.net wrote:

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:22 pm
by Magda Aguila
Shannon, believe me, she knows! I know people who have sent her packages
back (she loves to send people things they didn't order with little notes
telling them how much better their pets will be with it) and I have told her
time and time again. Every time I get a spoiled case because of the combo
remedies or her nosodes, I let her know about it. She doesn't care. She
thinks she is right and her/her German company's "new and improved"
homeopathy is right.

She has been sued, but it has always been an issue of Consumer affairs.
Never a health issue!

M

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 5:07 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Hi Peter, you wrote:

"Just that I also see it often not working, and thus question
on which principles of nature it could be based, and how we
might be able to understand the differences of when it works
and when not in order to make this approach more predictable
and reliable "

Agree, but then we must really talk about the same thing:
1. what exactly do you mean by not work? Is it having received the
nosode and still catching the disease? How well has that disease been
diagnosed? Just clinically, antibodies level proving it is THIS
virus/bacteria and not another giving a similar picture.....

2. what protocol was used to immunise?

3. what nosode was used? I have frequently seen the VACCINE being used
instead of the germ, and that does not work (at least not as well),
total failure in flu immunisation with an "Influenzinum" made from the
vaccine.

So the proof is not that easy. Did you read Isaac Golden's books? He has
a strict protocol and has 87% of protection, that means 87% of the
children he immunised homeopathically did not develop the disease WHEN
PUT IN CONTACT WITH SICK PEOPLE! Capitals because this is the most
important aspect of his work.

The natural principle at work is still the Law of Similars, nothing new
here.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 5:08 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
One test dose 30C, wait a month then, if thee was no reaction, 200, 1M,
10m over 3 days. This is Isaac Golden's protocol, the complete scheme
can be either copied upon what the local laws request or whatever the
practitioner feels correct.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 5:08 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Exactly!!!

And BTW, Homotoxicology does not have any immunisation protocol, so this
person is plainly a crook open to malpractice suit!

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:23 am
by Shannon Nelson
Um, this

on 8/14/02 6:49 PM, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD. at jroz@ihug.co.nz wrote:
is interesting! Do you know this for a fact, and if so, how?
So I wonder who she *thinks* taught her to use remedies this way?
Because if she's really "making it up", without even any *delusion* of
authority behind her, then my compunctions against siccing
anyone on her go out the window...

Shannon
so this

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 5:48 am
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks, this sounds more reasonable, and more like what I'd have expected.
But what would the "reaction" be? Does that mean that if there's no
aggravation (or rather proving, I guess) you'd have to give more doses?
(Just curious...)

Shannon
on 8/14/02 6:49 PM, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD. at jroz@ihug.co.nz wrote:

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 7:59 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Some of the children had a slight fever or a feeling of being unwell. In
that case we do not go to higher dilutions.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Re: West Nile Virus & Lyme Nosode

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 8:02 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
I am certified in Homotoxicology and there was no mention of it in my
training.
It might have been changed, but I believe I would have heard about it.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".