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From Julian Winston, years ago (miss him much)
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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Fran and I have had this discussion before (and I respect her greatly as a homeopath)

I do not think it is necessary to try to prevent illness when not in the close vicinity of the illness and when not at risk for severe injury from such illness.
I don't see the need for trying to use a remedy to prevent such illness.

I have a different view of illness than most - I don't necessarily agree that we 'catch' illnesses or that illnesses are 'caused' by bacteria or viruses - they may be present but are they really the 'cause'?
But that is another discussion.

Even if they are 'caused' by bacteria or viruses, I don't see the need to try to prevent. Not all are even susceptible. And is all such illness detox?

And I don't agree with using remedies in this way. I think the key is to teach people about each disease and its true risk - risk of 'catching' and risk if 'catch' and and the treatments for the diseases. Most people I have taught over the last 15 years, lose their fear of the diseases with this knowledge and don't feel the need to try to prevent them.

And I certainly have concerns about homeoprophylaxis being part of what is known as homeopathy (not to mention what is the possible harm of using remedies in this way, especially in a large number).

Again, maybe if in the vicinity of the disease - exposed in a close setting (if exposure or contagiousness is even an issue) - maybe then 1 remedy will help prevent the illness, if that is necessary (such as measles in an immune-compromised person). But then again, would an immune-compromised person even 'get' measles. If a person is fighting a stronger chronic deeper illness, would the acute illness even show?

Many questions.
Sheri

At 11:45 PM 2/17/2014, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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The definitions you quote are clear but I am not sure would be clear enough for most people not into homeopathy.
I would like to see what others would use as definitions, especially from those who complain about the hot air but never participate.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com

My feeling is that when one finds the right remedy it fits in like a template to bring physical and mental derangments . the Psycho-Neuro-Endocrine-Immunology system [Dr Shahrdar and Dr Nader's term ] back to balance.
New work on epigenetics does I think embrace Homeopathic principles but unfortunately does not recognise the great body of work present in Homeopathic literature, Jean

Are we in fact repairing the genome with good prescribing and to bring Homeopathy to a wider field of recognition could that concept be promoted.
I remember Dr Godfrey in Sydney now sadly deceased many years ago at the age of 91 approx said at a meeting I was at it was all to do with the DNA. I had no idea what he was talking about but am now convinced he was right.
He also had some strange practices . People from all over the world would send samples of saliva [a source of DNA ] he would from that imprinted on paper and the use of a pendulum divine their remedy.
I think many of us prefer the detective work we undertake, Jean

It would not be too difficult to design a research project if we had access to proper laboratories and the help of people who know hoe to do the experiments technically........

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com

Nice, Susan.
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In consigning its regulatory powers to its subject corporations, a government surrenders its electoral right to govern.

I'm sure you're right, Sheri; but if I'm interpreting Fran aright, she is in fact referring to addressing an immediate prospect of infection in the context of an epidemic; it was on that basis that it seemed possible to lump the two practices, homoeopathy and homoeoprophylaxis, under one heading without too much trouble.

I remain dubious as to the value of doing so under the name homoeopathy, chiefly (but not solely) due (a) to the complexities and uncertainties it introduces to the concept of homoeopathy and (b) to the apparentness of Hahnemann's intent -- an intent that I feel it's important to respect -- that the meaning of homoeopathy not take in homoeoprophylaxis. But another name, one conveying the union of the two: arriving at its meaning is a possibility, I think. I can't see our managing that before arriving at the meaning of homoeopathy by itself, but we do seem to be getting there…

Cheers!

John

Hi, Joe --

Thanks for that. No, we're in complete accord here: the words used in the definition must suit the audience. For the moment, though, I'll be more than glad if we can arrive at a summary of Hahnemann's meaning with which nobody disagrees. Once we've arrived there, it's merely a matter of substituting appropriate words having the same intent.

The first of those two I mentioned, for instance --

"prescribing for the patient the substance whose known… pure effects most closely resemble the patient’s symptoms of departure from health"

-- can readily be slightly re-expressed thus:

"use, as the patient's medicine, of the substance whose observed effects upon healthy people most closely resemble the patient's symptoms".

We all know this stuff; none of this is news; none of it is original. The question is whether we can find sufficient reason to agree upon it as accurately reflecting the boundaries that Hahnemann set between homoeopathy and everything else.

If anybody has, at this stage, a thought as to some deficiency in the definition immediately above, please share it, will you?

Cheers --

John
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In consigning its regulatory powers to its subject corporations, a government surrenders its electoral right to govern.

Sounds more as the definition of the remedy rather than the practice.....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com