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johndoo8
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by johndoo8 »

Tanya,

I am sorry if I come across as if having some special secret to keep.

Materia Medica is a directory of remedies just like phone book is a
directory of people. We use phone book to find people and use
Materia Medica to find remedies. But we can't get to know people by
studying the phone book and we can't understand the remedies by
reading the Materia Medica. The only way to know the remedies is
through using them. Once you know the remedy you can recognize it
instantly.

Just like we can quickly recognize our parents' voice if their
conversation were recorded and played to us, I can "hear" the
conversation of Tub and Puls in this case as you presented. Believe
me, I don't have special gift. I would never be able to recognize
your parents' voice if I am only allowed to read written descriptions
of their voice. I can't explain to you into "hearing" the sound of
Tub and Puls the same way you can't explain to me into hearing the
voice of your parents.
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

You know John, there are guys who can mimic other people's voices. So you think you are listening to George Bush but it is really a comedian pretending.
Some homoeopathic remedies are also very similar and it can be difficult to be sure when you hear just some symptoms.
Can you show your Repertorisation or offer some references to show that the symptoms exhibited by this patient are ONLY found in the remedies you referred to.
Rgds
Soroush

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johndoo8
Sent: 04 August 2008 16:14
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: some advice wanted
Tanya,

I am sorry if I come across as if having some special secret to keep.

Materia Medica is a directory of remedies just like phone book is a
directory of people. We use phone book to find people and use
Materia Medica to find remedies. But we can't get to know people by
studying the phone book and we can't understand the remedies by
reading the Materia Medica. The only way to know the remedies is
through using them. Once you know the remedy you can recognize it
instantly.

Just like we can quickly recognize our parents' voice if their
conversation were recorded and played to us, I can "hear" the
conversation of Tub and Puls in this case as you presented. Believe
me, I don't have special gift. I would never be able to recognize
your parents' voice if I am only allowed to read written descriptions
of their voice. I can't explain to you into "hearing" the sound of
Tub and Puls the same way you can't explain to me into hearing the
voice of your parents.

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , "tamarque@..." wrote:
undestand how
well
studied
as
reminded
patient's
call
the
than by
symptoms?
know how
Similimum.
is
not
therefore
a
com] On
sight. He
this
young
girl.
you
mother
wrote:
the same
com] On
are
the
the best
co.uk>
course?
com]
One
Pulsatilla
report to

become
suicidal
sick
nose
the
results
keeps her
from the
the
that
i would
she has
periodically. she
acutally
that
year which
comfort
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Luise Kunkle
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by Luise Kunkle »

Hi Chris,

I do not think that most people on this list are interested in v.
Boenninghausen, so I will not reply to the post below, except for:

You do agree that **by Soroush's difinition** v. B. was not a
"classical" homeopath?:-)

Regards

Luise
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by Tanya Marquette »

john,
your position reminds me discussions i have about 'common
sense.' many people use that phrase to imply that a piece of
knowledge or understanding is inate or automatic. however,
my position is that there is no truth to this. common sense is
something that you have learned over and over again until
you have learned on a cellular level and it becomes an automatic
response or reaction. but if a moment is taken to reflect, people
often can identify the original learning process that occurred.
when i drive, i often go on automatic pilot. while not safe, i can
recall driving dozens of miles with no conscious attention being
paid, but drive i did, negotiating changing road conditions and
other traffic. my driving skills and my knowledge (repeat
experience) of the road enabled me to do this. i think we all
do this with differnet things in life. otherwise, our days would be
major stress experiences as we consciously thought about and
planned each move for each detail or event of the day. but we
all can describe the nature of what we do if pressed on it.
and that is what i and others are asking you to do. your knowledge
of the remedies did not enter your being without consdcous effort.
tanya


johndoo8
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by johndoo8 »

Actually you should fear for those patients whose doctor (I don't
want to use the word homeopath here) would misrepresent the nature of
his practice and create some false evidences so that he can practice
with out considering patients well being.

The results mattered are the restoration of the patients' health. No
patient cares about the results of our provings.
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johndoo8
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by johndoo8 »

If you go back to read my original post, you will notice I never said
this was the only way. This is just my way and I would start with
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

And I go back and ask WHY? - On what evidence? And why these two? and Why not wait for one to finish its action?

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johndoo8
Sent: 04 August 2008 18:52
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: some advice wanted
If you go back to read my original post, you will notice I never said
this was the only way. This is just my way and I would start with
Tub and Puls.

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G WILKEN
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by G WILKEN »

Bravo, Chris! And very much appreciated.

ginny

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Leilanae
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Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2001 10:00 pm

Re: some advice wanted

Post by Leilanae »

snip.......................
Thanks Chris!!!!!!!!!!

Leilanae


Christine Wyndham-Thomas
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Re: some advice wanted

Post by Christine Wyndham-Thomas »

Thanks Chris - like a breath of fresh air!
Christine


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