do you tell the patient?
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Re: do you tell the patient?
Hi List,
I am still wondering about the law aspect.
In the states or nations where it is allowed by law to refuse to tell
the patients what homeopathic remedy they get - does this also apply
to the allopaths, hospitals etc. for their drugs and other therapies?
Regards
Luise
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I am still wondering about the law aspect.
In the states or nations where it is allowed by law to refuse to tell
the patients what homeopathic remedy they get - does this also apply
to the allopaths, hospitals etc. for their drugs and other therapies?
Regards
Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: do you tell the patient?
Hi,
In allopathy, patient knows name of drug prescribed.
This has no negative effect at all.
It is illegal, not to tell.
Keeping it secret in Homeopathy does not serve any good purpose.
50% patients won't turn up 2nd. time.
Once bitten always shy.
I am a prescribe only consultant.
Don't keep medicines stock.
Patients knowing name of drug never affected negatively.
When given nosodes or toxic things like Ars/Lach/Lith,
I tell them it is like a vaccine & they are happy.
MM
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Irene de Villiers wrote:
In allopathy, patient knows name of drug prescribed.
This has no negative effect at all.
It is illegal, not to tell.
Keeping it secret in Homeopathy does not serve any good purpose.
50% patients won't turn up 2nd. time.
Once bitten always shy.
I am a prescribe only consultant.
Don't keep medicines stock.
Patients knowing name of drug never affected negatively.
When given nosodes or toxic things like Ars/Lach/Lith,
I tell them it is like a vaccine & they are happy.
MM
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Irene de Villiers wrote:
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Re: do you tell the patient?
rochelle wrote:
She wasn't worth it in my book as I had already wasted enough breath at
her office - I just warned others that she was not my idea of a valid
homeopath.
Sometimes you can take the horse to the water - but getting it to swim
upstream on its back is a different story:-)
Namaste,
IRene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
She wasn't worth it in my book as I had already wasted enough breath at
her office - I just warned others that she was not my idea of a valid
homeopath.
Sometimes you can take the horse to the water - but getting it to swim
upstream on its back is a different story:-)
Namaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: do you tell the patient?
Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
I remember your saying that - but it's still not a good reason to
withhold your remedy much less to withhold remedies in general. I feel
you should have had access to it in a sealed envelope for example - or
somewhere you could get it if you needed it due to severe aggaravation
with your homeopath unavailable.
So with-holding it is IMO still not in *your* interests as a client.
Your CHOICE to not want to know it, a form of fear, can be
accommodated without that.
[But if I was your homeopath, I'd be exploring WHY you want to torture
yourself and undermine your progress ........and the remedy choice would
also include that.....]
So I do not think this is a valid reason - in client interests - to
withhold remedy name from a client.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
I remember your saying that - but it's still not a good reason to
withhold your remedy much less to withhold remedies in general. I feel
you should have had access to it in a sealed envelope for example - or
somewhere you could get it if you needed it due to severe aggaravation
with your homeopath unavailable.
So with-holding it is IMO still not in *your* interests as a client.
Your CHOICE to not want to know it, a form of fear, can be
accommodated without that.
[But if I was your homeopath, I'd be exploring WHY you want to torture
yourself and undermine your progress ........and the remedy choice would
also include that.....]
So I do not think this is a valid reason - in client interests - to
withhold remedy name from a client.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Re: do you tell the patient?
Whether I tell (and how much I tell) depends on what remedy the patient needs, how curious or insistent the patient is, and whether the patient is an adult or a child. If they press -- and I'm afraid they'll go right to the Internet to look up the materia medica, or I know I'm dealing with parents who're not going to understand why their little darling is getting Med. or Carc. -- I'll explain that it can muddy the water to have folks anticipating symptoms they've read about.
It continues to amaze me that most people are so unconcerned about what they are taking.
Peace,
Dale
It continues to amaze me that most people are so unconcerned about what they are taking.
Peace,
Dale
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Re: do you tell the patient?
In those who essentially wanted to direct their own treatment did you ever think of the Lanthanides where as I understand it to keep one's automony is a feature. What other remedies or rubrics does it bring to mind. Looking at independent ,courageous seems to be nearest maybe confident?//
??foolhardy. / Just wondering though offcourse every case would be different, Best wishes , Jean
??foolhardy. / Just wondering though offcourse every case would be different, Best wishes , Jean
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Re: do you tell the patient?
In the Uk GPs write prescriptions which obviously have the name of the drug on them – and I have never heard of one refusing to ‘tell’ if asked anyway. In a hospital I imagine the drug is written on the bedside notes and, likewise, I have not heard of a patient not being told. How much explanation goes into the name of the drug is another matter. I have had patients who think they are on a drug for one reason when it is fairly evident they are on it for another. But then don’t patents have a responsibility to make sure they understand? As regards homeopathic remedies I have agreed not to know what remedy I was taking until the next appointment and I have homeopath patients who insist on not knowing. Sometimes the control you want is in choosing who you are going to trust and then just letting them and the remedies get on with it. If someone feels differently, of course, there is no denying that they have the ‘right’ to know, and I routinely write remedy names on envelopes and explain why I am doing what in my own practice.
Theresa
Theresa
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Re: do you tell the patient?
Sure, that would have been fine. Actually I'd have *preferred* to not
even have it in a sealed envelope, because I would still have tortured
myself with *that*--like a box of unopened cookies.
But I do
see your point.
I'm sure it could've been made to work either way.
Cheers,
Shannon
even have it in a sealed envelope, because I would still have tortured
myself with *that*--like a box of unopened cookies.

see your point.
I'm sure it could've been made to work either way.
Cheers,
Shannon
Re: do you tell the patient?
I sometimes think that the fact that I discuss the remedy with the patients and read relevant parts from the MM to them makes it unnecessary for them to look it up as I very rarely have patients who tell me that they do that (except homeopathy students:-)) Also if I feel I have a patient that will look things up I will say that you don't have to have all the symptoms in the remedy for it to work as some are irrelevant to your case but most of your symptoms should be there.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Re: do you tell the patient?
Do you find people are unconcerned about what they are talking?
My experience is that they do want to know, and that they understand enough about the principles of homeopathy to accept their remedy whatever it is made of.
My experience is that they do want to know, and that they understand enough about the principles of homeopathy to accept their remedy whatever it is made of.