on 4/21/05 11:34 PM, tjelie at
t.cloosterman@chello.nl wrote:
I am in agreement that the anchor in proven elements is the core area and it
was not my intent to oppose your basis, only add resources and ideas to it.
Agree that the remedies we have the most info on get as full a treatment as
deemed of interest. The element itself (or the most well known compound if
the element is not well characterized) is of the most interest, as it allows
a solid basis for knowing the anchor component of all the compounds of that
element. I did not mean to imply that lesser rx should be included in the
larger core compilations---sorry I did not make that more clear. Your core
rx are well chosen for column 8 IMO.
My point was:If anyone besides Soroush likes the COMPARATIVE summary chart
idea)--that interests me personally, and I want that to be complete (eg
proven rx, lesser rx).
Since Minutus is not just a discussion board for people newly studying these
remedies, in order to sustain this project, it needs to have NEW,
refreshing, and helpful insights from seminar notes, cases, etc. where
available. There are several regular participants interested in more than
just what they can study on their own using Referenceworks or EH, for
example. And there is interest in looking at the thematic views of the
chart as a whole. For example, Rosemary wrote: "Personally, I really want to
study what Ferrum-met, Osmium, and Plut-nit have in common, for a better
understanding of Stage 8 -- and also the main ways in which they differ..."
I for one, also DO want to find out whatever is known about for example,
samarium and its compounds from clinical experience. I have been waiting
for Scholtens book on Lanthanides. If people have info on Lanthanide
elements/compounds from Scholten or Chaabra, I would like it to be input
(probably to category 1 as shown in below concept). If someone has been to
a Scholten LANTHANIDES seminar please contact me privately.
As we have said, getting the periodic chart mm in "memory banks" via
groupings is a key point to your study idea, Annemieke. The periodic chart
has a macroscale landscape. The latter is to me a main value of your
exercise as proposed. If the alchemical geography of the chart is known, it
can lead to ideas for rx based on inference-- that are not possible without
studying rx in the context of the chart geometry (eg "x and Y' axes).
Studying by groupings is the genius of your idea IMO. Thus macroview
thematic material from Scholten/Sankaran/Deschepper/Chaabra etc and from
comparative study of mm of elements in the same column is of integral
interest (to me personally, and several others so far).
What do you think of this--Perhaps for each stage of chart study, the main
rx ONLY (the element itself and proven compounds) are on your posted list
for people to make compilations or posts on. Then ASSUME that whomever
does chart/synoptic compilation will be including whatever compounds are
available--even ones with only clinical info. That way both DEPTH/PROVED
REMEDIES and BREADTH synoptic/comparative modes of thought are covered.
So, with this idea, there could be three approaches in parallel (numbered
here from MACRO to SPECIFIC REMEDY), but the numbering could easily be the
other way around if you like):
1-THEMES-summary of postulated and clinically recognized periodic chart
grouping themes (ie. Scholten, Sankaran, DeSchepper, Chaabra, etc). What
elements are in each column, summary of how are these viewed by the latter
writers, and how do they embody the column theme differently and poignantly
for each row. (This gives macro overview of grouping (column and each row in
it). Those interested in this area can volunteer to do this part--think it
is integral to the exercise. People who do not use this info or consider it
not valid or not helpful can skip it.
Amount of Work: The product of this study will be short-- several pages long
at the very most. Requires books and/or seminar material from these above
practitioners in hand and/or submitted by Minutus group members.
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2. COMPARATIVE SUMMARY
COMPARATIVE BREADTH OF EACH ELEMENT AND COMPOUNDS OF THAT ELEMENT--
Synoptic/comparative look (more chart-like) at the SET of each element and
all its compounds--inclusive of lesser known rx --shows the breadth of the
element representation in remedies and compares the remedies in COMMON
categories (eg keynotes; region/pathology, etc as in previous post). This
is a macro view of each individual elemental group of rx for both commitment
to memory and for quick reference.
Amount of Work: Can be done relatively quickly by one or two people who have
up to date Referenceworks or EH search engine programs and some other
resources. (Andy volunteered to do this one, for at least Column 8 and if
time, further).
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3. ELEMENT AND COMPOUNDS (WELL-PROVEN) IN SOME DEPTH--Main rx of a column
(proved rx)--in depth for the element and its best proved compounds.
ARRANGED TOGETHER --genius of rx, main ideas, schema (proving for new rx or
maybe radar keynotes for better known rx), selected seminar notes with fresh
and interesting viewpoints, cases of interest which illustrate the genius
and successful use of the rx, etc). This satisfies those wanting basic
foundation and also practitioners interested in new viewpoints, cases, and
seminar notes from what people may have attended. This item corresponds to
your list of rx as posted:
physical regional loci, clinical uses, relationships of rx)
--SCHEMA MATERIAL (ie Proving schema for new rx, key symptoms (Materia
medica) of well known rx for each part of body/category (EG RADAR KEYNOTES
schema may work in some cases as a base to be added to; or the proving
schema)
--REPERTORY info (unique rubrics, delusions, sensations)
--CURED CASE REPORT FROM PRACTICE, OR OUTSTANDING ILLUSTRATIVE CASE(S) FROM
LITERATURE
--SEMINAR material summarized woven into above or separate, and source
properly attributed
Amount of Work: The product here will potentially be fairly lengthy (at
least a few pages for each well-proved rx).
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We dont want to bite off too much, then have it fizzle out. But items 1 and
2 are a fairly limited amount of work. Item 3 will be a bit more work for
each of several rx, and hopefully will find submissions from many people.
There HAS to be interest in each category in order to sustain the project.
Everyone (even people who want to cull from the Minutus archives later)
would benefit from the focussed work of each of these proposed three project
areas.
Together, the 3-pronged approach would probably fulfill the somewhat diverse
interests expressed so far by potential participants. Each category above
needs a few people interested in that material in particular and motivated
to spend time summarizing it for the benefit of themselves and others, and
maintaining that interest each month, or maybe every 2 weeks (2 weeks means
the project is complete in 9 months).
I suggest that we see how much interest there is (ie. people contact you
privately and sign up to work primarily in at least one of the three project
areas above; and volunteering for work on the core remedies you have listed.
For item # 3 above here is an idea for categories that people volunteer for:
(For each core remedy on Annemieke's list):
1--COMPILER--one compiler per remedy (responsible for gathering all
submissions from the group FOR ONE REMEDY and putting together the info in
the organized format for final posting.
2--SUBMITTER--volunteers to submit to compiler one of the following
summaries for one or more of the remedies:
--SYNOPTIC MATERIAL (genius of remedy, minimum syndrome of max
value/nucleus, physical regional loci, clinical uses, relationships of rx)
--SCHEMA MATERIAL (ie Proving schema for new rx, key symptoms (Materia
medica) of well known rx for each part of body/category)
--REPERTORY info (unique rubrics, delusions, sensations)
--CURED CASE REPORT FROM PRACTICE, OR OUTSTANDING ILLUSTRATIVE CASE FROM
LITERATURE
--SEMINAR material summarized woven into above or separate, and source
properly attributed
Compiler posts to list when complete. Additions and comments can be made at
that point, with discussion in the group.
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ALTERNATIVELY, we could skip the Compiler and each volunteer just post
directly to the list info from one of the three categories above.
With this latter method, it is less organized, and people have to compile
the info on their computer themselves. But it could be more open structure
and not over-organized. Anyone can feel free to contribute anytime.
With or without a compiler for each rx, each project post could be something
like the following in the subject line of the post:
1. Project identifier--"PERIODIC CHART PROJ"; (identifies post on your
computer as being part of this project)
2. Type of info--
A--"THEMES" or
B--"COMPARATIVE MM" or
C--"NAME OF REMEDY (and info type)-Synoptic; Schema; Repertory; Cured Case;
Specific Author with distinctive and useful viewpoint.
Those searching the archives later would use "Periodic Chart" as a search
word and come up with all submissions.
Comments?
Cheers and go forth,
Best,
Andy
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