Minutus

If chicken pox is properly treated with homoeopathy, there is nothing wrong with it at all - it will give the person's immune system a good boost.
However, the virus can stay in the body and then erupt from time to time as shingles (Zona).
If you are treating a case of shingles with a few spots (not a good sign at all as the 'disease' is not coming out) then Bry is strongly indicated.
SKIN - ERUPTIONS - rash - slow evolution of rash in eruptive fevers (Bry is the only one!)

Regards

Soroush
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Sorry - I meant to say a 'case CHICKENPOX with few spots'.

Regards

Soroush
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Hi Fran,

May I cross-post this to the German list?

There was a discussion re. prophylaxis on it a few weeks back. Some
may be interested.

Regards

Luise
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So definitely know what's true:
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and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Hi Irene,

That fits in good - I was going to pm you on it.
I have here copies of two papers read around 1998 at one of the
conferences (I failed to note down which exactly it was),I copied them
from one of the bound books:

"Infection and Autoimmune Disease", Leonard C. Harrison and Geoffrey
McColl, Division of Autoimmunity and Transplantation, the Walter and
Eilza Hall Institute of Medical Research, Royal Melbourne Hospital,
Austr.

And the introdutcion to: "T-Cell Subsets (Th1,Th2) and Cytokines in
Autoimmunity", Sergio Romagnani, ...Uni. of Florence, Italy.

They seem to be of a different opinion from what you say (above and
before in other mails), i. e. that infections, esp. virus infections,
can cause autoimmune disease, possibly by such skewing - not just
vaccinations resp. that vaccs. may prevent this.

Could you recommend other, more recent research-papers on this
subject, esp. if those later findings contradict what the authors say?

I guess you have such papers. If you give me the particulars I'll try
and get them.

Thanks.

Regards

Luise

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Puls is known to be the specific remedy to attend remnant cough,
taking the healing cycle to completion.
If you google you may get more info "Chickenpox cough pulsatilla"
I don't remember URL to this.
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Personally, I would let the child get chicken pox and then treat the
symptoms (constitutionally first but since you don't know it, then
treat symptomatically). A child needs these illnesses as mildstones
and it strengthens their immune system.If they go through it with
homeopathy, all the better. Also use nutrition to support them. Hope
that is helpful.
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A further thought would be that if the child is already patient, to give them their 'constitutional' remedy.
This will automatically boost them in any case and make them less susceptible to getting CP or anything else - but I believe their immune system is strengthened in any case by such a treatment.

Regards

Soroush

Louise, I'd need to read them to be able to put that in context.

There are viral diseases which make it LOOK like the virus did the
harm - but it is really that the virus has a skewed immune system
that is susceptible to the virus triggering the autoimmune activity.
So I'd be surprised if the papers you refer to show balanced
cytokines measured prior to viral activity?

Also since the main field of the first researcher is in organ
transplantation, their concern is somewhat skewed from the usual, as
they are trying to prevent transplant rejection - so I'd wonder if
the assumptions or background or intentions in the research were
appropriate to the findings. For example a strong problem in skewing
the immune system (to Th-2) is steroid use (it's not ONLY vaccines
that do it) and steroids are standard in transplant handling.
So basically I can;t comment without reading what you have..
May???
Scientists often use "may" when they are doing wishful thinking not
research:-)
It's not a matter of how recent a finding is however. Good research
holds water over time as it makes a specific finding. More can be
added - but only very poor research is overturned - and not because
the way the body behaves changes - but because there is some flaw in
the research assumptions made.
It's why one needs to always read the fine print of the research -
with a critical eye:-)

<< I guess you have such papers.

Not handy since my recent computer crash no.
But there is plenty of research in the National Library of Medicine.
(PubMed)
My own experience specializing in immune compromise disease such as
FIP - shows me examples on a daily basis in cats:-)

Can you say what makes the papers you have seem to say something
different?
I KNOW that is not the case - so it is a matter of trying to be sure
we are comparing apples and apples.

Namaste,
Irene
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Hi Irene,
Yes, - too bad I do not have them as software file. I'll try and find
them on pubmed.
Very well - but there have been chronic diseases and there e.g.
"sequelae of measles" long before vaccination and cortisone and all
those modern kinds of drugs.

I'll re-read. The problem with me and those kinds of studies is that
they are not focused on the question - and the other things they talk
about are way above my head. So I have to pick out what I think
relevant.

That's exactly how they said it:-) It is not an article on
vaccination.
Well, the problem is.

When I do a search run on e.g. cytokines I expect a lot of papers to
come up, of which I can only read the abstract. I have no idea which
of them are worth paying money for to read.
Can you say for certain that kittens who were not vaccinated at all
and never got cortisone etc., have been fed a good diet will not get
FIP?

I'll try and keep digging to find the apples:-)

Regards

Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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