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Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:02 am
by John Harvey
Thanks, Maria. I was relying on the 2013 Standards document itself, which says "The Council on Homeopathic Education (CHE), [now the Accreditation Commission for Homeopathic Education in North America (ACHENA)]…", but perhaps somebody got it wrong in putting the document together.
And I have already submitted some suggestions via the e-mail address that appears in the e-mail message.

Christine, it seems to me that the requirement to include in regular commercial advertisements a link by which to unsubscribe from them is about all we can ask. If you're not regularly posting donation requests, your e-mails would seem to fall outside the domain of spam. And if an occasional suggestion of a donation slips through in a newsletter, what's the harm? As I see it, if we're too, too careful to censor ourselves in posting useful information, we'll tie ourselves up in knots over pure legalistic claptrap.

Cheers!

John

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:26 am
by Christine Wyndham-Thomas
Thanks John. That's what I thought.
Regards
Christine
www.homoeopathyclassical.com

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:36 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Read the terms of use - that IS allowed.
Irene

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Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:51 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Observation number one is untrue as I have NEVER avoided my own words. I stand behind all of them, and have never held "contradictory positions" I can't help if you are rude and unprofessional enough to suggest otherwise. If you do not comprehend my views the way I write them, feel free to quote and ask polite questions and I'll explain.

Observation number two is also not true. I did not accuse anyone of spam.
Suggest you re-read what I did write.

Observation three. I do not know which documents you refer to or what they said.
Maybe it was whatever Leilanae wanted to forward blindly. If so it was not anything I read or responded to.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:37 pm
by Kristy Lampe
Hi folks,
I know all the acronyms can be very confusing, so I would like to clarify a few mentioned in recent posts:
ACHENA = Accreditation Commission for Homeopathic Education in North America. It used to be called CHE, Council for Homeopathic Education, through 2011.
CHC is the Council for Homeopathic Certification.
Cheers,
Kristy

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:51 pm
by Victoria Mashevsky
So, I was on the call yesterday - no one was trying to sell anything, thus I do not think the whole spam issue is particularly valid. I want to add another clarification made during the call that I've found useful and based on that, I make assumption about difference b/w ACHENA and CHC: In this document the word "competencies" used to desribe homeopathic practitioner; the word "standards" used to desribe educational programs. As I see it - ACHENA is an organization that helps with establishing "standards", CHC is an organization that helps with establishing "competencies". From the standpoint of homeopathic student both are very timely and useful.
V

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:49 pm
by Maria Bohle
Victoria, that is a perfect assessment of last nights meeting.

I whole heartedly agree.

Warmly, Maria

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 1:31 am
by John Harvey
Kristy and Victoria, thanks! Looks like I confused CHE with CHC.

Irene, let me quote from your message of 6:01 a.m. GMT 8 May:

"That is not legal or ethical.
"Nobody has the right to send email where it is not solicited. It costs the receiver money and is classified as spam!"

Now, either:

• you're going to own those words, which makes observation #2 correct ("you don't make clear the basis for accusing the ACHENA e-mail under discussion in this thread of being spam or for accusing Leilanae of forwarding spam"); or

• you're not, which adds yet another instance of observation #1 ("I've seen you many times accuse your correspondents of twisting your words simply in order that you can avoid owning up to those words and hold several mutually contradictory positions"). You choose.

But in your overweening haste to cover up yet another mistake, you missed the thrust of that observation: "it looks as though you have raised some points that should be of major concern to those who may accept the CHC as a body representing the standards of homoeopaths, points that the CHC should respond to".

You are your own worst publicity agent, aren't you.

And you brought all this on yourself without even reading the documents that you alleged consisted of commercial advertising. That was careless, wasn't it.

Cheers --

John

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:08 am
by Angela McGuire
Reminder: You have the option to not click on the link.

I Just felt the need to point out this obvious option. I have been on many otherne-mail lists where people often include their link beneath their name. Sure, it may be a form of passive advertising, but the key word here is passive.

I think to make a big issue of the link enclosure is simply being "nit picky" or "petty." I'm not trying to excite anyone with these choice of words, so let's not get into any "flame wars" or what have you....

It's best for us to stick to topics in homeopathy and , for example, how I can get rid of my uterine fibroids and how others can get their healing needs met.

Thanks!
Angie
Sent from my iPad

Re: Homeopaths become as one

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:13 am
by Irene de Villiers
Yes I said that.
And it is true.
What of it?

It's merely a principle and if I prefer people to use principles before sending emails, that's fine.
If you prefer to forward any email form anyone about anythig to everyone just becasue a writer asks you tpl that's not okay with me, ecen if it is okay with you.
I expect some thought to go into whetehr an emal shoud e forwarded.

I was writing about this principle only.
It was not about who was forwarding what to where.
(I did not even look to see what was being forwarded or by whom or to where)
Only about whether email should be forwarded blindly on request.
I used good English and believe I made that clear.

Any other assumptions were/are yours not mine.

I do. they are to do with whether it is appropriate to blindly forward a email on request.
HUH?
Where did they get into the conversation???
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."