I agree with you and knowledge of these things helps us to know who and how we can help, such as in your conversations. One must be alert to the responses and see the real opportunities, which you did with the young man. As you rightly point out, there are real dangers and whistleblowers are sometimes targeted. Truly helping others involves being aware and using discernment because as you observed quackbuster types already are shut down. No use using up your energy and time if someone does not want to learn. This group however, one wants to assume does want to learn and, perhaps, good manners being applied would go a long way to not only have a better exchange, with the outcome of supporting each other while learning, but assuming those here want those things too. If one has not learned good manners which is another way of saying communicating positively, just reading the posts and seeing the outcomes and responses would help them to teach themselves. Also too much time and energy are used up in negative discussion which usually end up with the emotional response being remembered over the vital information we want to share and learn from. I want reality here with a positive human involvement and that reality is what classical homeopathy is, does, and what our environment is that impacts what we are learning and doing.
Mary Ann Gilmore
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From: tanya
To:
minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] cervical cancer vaccine
I think we are on the same page Mary Ann. It is not just knowledge of facts, but also
the philosophy and politico/economic understanding of how things happen in our cultures
that lead us to make judgements.
Unfortunately, people can be so timid having been totally intimidated against trusting what
they see before their own eyes, that even when you give facts and figures they balk. Only
yesterday I ran into a woman in a market and asked her if she wanted to split a box of
organic butter which was very expensive. She proudly and with surprise told me how she
eats only soy and margerine spreads. So I rolled my eyes and said something like :"Oh I
wouldnt ever eat those things at all." She asked me some questions, but in true quackbuster
fashion cut off every attempt I made to answer her. Then she asked me how do you know
who to believe--a very common question and often genuinely asked, but not in this case because
again she cut me off and didn't want to know. The success of this conversation was with a
younger man who worked in the market who said his cholesterol was very high so what was he
to do. When asked he told me his cholesterol level and I said it was not high. I was able to
tell him how big pharma saturated the market with harmful drugs, created a big scare about
cholesterol and then argued to lower the accepted levels in order to create a new market
layer. He was very interested in this information, thanked me and I am sure he will research
it further.
As for vaccines, unfortunately my kids did get vax'd along with the rest of those in my collective.
Fortunately, none went autistic, but we had other behavior issues and learning problems with
almost all of them--about 10. Strangely, we did have 1 child who was somewhat autistic and
no one back then would listen to me. He did not get vax'd as far as I know.
The situation is so complicated today. The vaccine schedule in the USA is massive, the rate
of autism is up at 1:100 and greater in some areas. ADD/ADHD is 1:25 kids. Nutrition just
plain sucks with all the GMO foods that people are eating as well as the high level of chemicals
from food and packaging. Blood tests are showing that even newborns have well over 100
toxic chemicals in their blood at birth. Many of those chemicals are neurotoxins and endocrine
disrupters. What chance do these children have to grow up free from chronic disease and
dysfunction.
Even the whistleblowers from industry or gov't agencies like the FDA or CDC are cautious about
what they say. Stomping on dissent is not just reserved for the OWS movement currently, but
there is a long, horrid and dramatic history of people being blatantly assassinated for daring to
stand up to power. Martin Luther King, MalcomX, Fred Hampton, and even JFK brutally slain.
Mumia still in jail despite all the public controversy about that trial in the early 1980's where
witnesses lied under threat from the prosecution if they didn't. The list goes on. The medical
industry is not less lethal (pun intended). And parents are threatened with loss of custody of
their children and jail time for themselves when they stand up in defense of their children demanding
the right to make independent choices for their child's health.
And despite all this information, people are ignorant of what is really going on: worse they defend
the very system that is designed to impoverish them financially as well as health wise. But so glad
that we have places to gather, even online, to lend mutual support and share experiences and
information.
tanya
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