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Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:48 pm
by Roger Van Zandvoort
Pongo went nuts, what to do now?

Which remedy?

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:49 pm
by Joy Lucas
I don't think it is funny or worth fuelling but I imagine that english not being a first or best language could challenge a lot of people.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:30 am
by Pongo
Oh, sorry I mixed up with you and that MD so probably you are not varatrum album.

You think I went nuts but this is me. more likely me. This is very important for homeopath to know I think. Everybody has persona to cope with other people. I'm not American in first place(English is my secound language ) and I don't fit in people. You are right. I have problem that's why I need to be fixed but sometimes people don't have ability to over come the situation. People need help that's why they come to homeopaths. I know people are sinner and they have to deal with it. Then, homeopaths are allow to people fall into that karma? What is the job for homeopath. They should just watch and observe for their destiny? I don't think so... They are healer. They help people. That's what I believe.

Pongo
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Roger Van Zandvoort wrote:

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:30 am
by Pongo
Sorry Joy,

Some of them I skipped to read so I was not following the story.

I felt it was worth this discussion. Some of homeopaths said not learning from this topic but I think they don't want to learn from this topic(I thought it was good opportunity to learn). They can't have open mind and they want to stay their thinking(obviously they think they are creater of new way!). My benefit from this discussion was I could know how homeopaths derailed from funfamental homeopathy so in their way of speak that I could see consistently denying it. When I see it, I will find there is no hope so it was good future reference.
Thank you!

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:42 pm
by Joy Lucas
I don't think there is a need to apologise as the banter has come from many sides :-)

I hope that we can return to topic though and yes many do not want to learn Hahnemannian homeopathy and that is why one reason we keep having these flareups.

But hopefully.....

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:13 am
by Elham Mohajer
Once in a while I get the time to look at the comments on Minutus. I
made the mistake of opening this topic which it seems has been going
around for some time now.

The mistake we make sometimes is to write what we think, or what we
have heard others say. If instead we write what we actually know from
experience a lot of the confusion will never appear.

Is Isopathy good or bad - we never know unless we have tried it on a
sizeable number of patients and carefully followed up on the result
and compared it to let's say a constitutional prescription, or still
better a remedy that seems to cover the symptoms of a large number of
patients (E.G. thuja for small-pox vaccine). If we have not done that
we would be wiser if we remain quiet and learn what those who have
done have to say. Otherwise it would be your opinion versus my
opinion with both of us being probably wrong.

Best regards
Elham

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:08 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hear hear!!!!!
Dueling theories need to take on the evidence of experiences. Question
the experiences, sure. But to ignore them completely--and even failing
to be interested in them--is... well, highly anti-Hahnemannian.

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:21 pm
by Joy Lucas
Shannon do you really want to go back to how Hahnemann discarded isopathy? Please, how much more do you want to drag this out?

We do not need opinions about Hahnemann's homeopathy - it is as he says it is, you and so many others just want to change it to suit yourselves (for some strange set of agendas) and that truly is anti Hahnemannian.

Who cares who wants to try isopathy - it isn't homeopathy.
Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk

Re: Fell off a bridge

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:27 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Excuse me, I have long since stopped following the thread.

My reply was to the specific comments made, as this is an(other) issue
that comes up repeatedly--whether or not to permit exploration of ideas
which conflict with "accepted" theory. But yes, I would apply that
principle even to nasty ol' isopathy. And yeah, it's not homeopathy.
Neither is the electric switch you flip for light in your office;
neither is the understanding of family dynamics that may be required
for proper prescribing; neither is the car you may need in order to
pick up a remedy. Our concern is not "homeopathy only", but rather,
"homeopathy and whatever else may be needed in order to apply it
successfully." And now, I am again out of the discussion, so go ahead
with your last word.