Hmm... Sorry, I don't know what happened to the opening sentence. It should have said "though for a reason other than the contradictory symptoms". My apologies!
John
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Possibly Naive Question
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Re: Possibly Naive Question
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Re: Possibly Naive Question
Posted by: "Luise Kunkle" sem-pa@bar-do.net
Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:44 pm (PDT)
Hello Luise
I think you were making the point re allopathy that ''allo means 'other' and that allo-pathy is not the same as 'conventional' per se. Herbalism can be allopathic and acupuncture too, whilst remaining holistic. It is not a judgement - it is a description of method. At least I hope that is what you were saying. I would hate to misrepresent!
As far as my own experience goes, the point I was making in this particular instance only was that by describing a hot burning condition as 'damp', heating it up sounded more all0-pathic than it actually was. I was being advised and treated to heat up an already hot condition, or one that was hot and dry from my perspective. I wouldn't generalise from that to the entire realm of TCM but it struck me that in that instance it was treatment of similarities. That's all. And I did get pins in those places - that was the main line of joint inflammation. The acupuncturist was clear she was working with a particular energy pattern but the body kindly showed the way with neon road signs - or at least that was my interpretation..
In the end the acupuncture kept me going but it was a homeopathic remedy that brought about the sea change in energy. Even there, though, it was one physical symptom taken in detail that brought me to a relatively small remedy that fitted all the others. And it was looking at it via Sankaran that helped me understand exactly why it had been so helpful.
Anyway I am hardly an expert on TCM or acupunture - it was just a personal observation of one case.
Theresa
One should do both:-)
After all if
Yes - that is a way to express why one should always include in the
treatment the place where the trouble manifests.
Well no - dampness one should dry. Sure they did not needle a point on
the inside of your calf, near the knee? Or one on the inside of the
Re: Possibly Naive Question
Posted by: "Luise Kunkle" sem-pa@bar-do.net
Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:44 pm (PDT)
Hello Luise
I think you were making the point re allopathy that ''allo means 'other' and that allo-pathy is not the same as 'conventional' per se. Herbalism can be allopathic and acupuncture too, whilst remaining holistic. It is not a judgement - it is a description of method. At least I hope that is what you were saying. I would hate to misrepresent!
As far as my own experience goes, the point I was making in this particular instance only was that by describing a hot burning condition as 'damp', heating it up sounded more all0-pathic than it actually was. I was being advised and treated to heat up an already hot condition, or one that was hot and dry from my perspective. I wouldn't generalise from that to the entire realm of TCM but it struck me that in that instance it was treatment of similarities. That's all. And I did get pins in those places - that was the main line of joint inflammation. The acupuncturist was clear she was working with a particular energy pattern but the body kindly showed the way with neon road signs - or at least that was my interpretation..
In the end the acupuncture kept me going but it was a homeopathic remedy that brought about the sea change in energy. Even there, though, it was one physical symptom taken in detail that brought me to a relatively small remedy that fitted all the others. And it was looking at it via Sankaran that helped me understand exactly why it had been so helpful.
Anyway I am hardly an expert on TCM or acupunture - it was just a personal observation of one case.
Theresa
One should do both:-)
After all if
Yes - that is a way to express why one should always include in the
treatment the place where the trouble manifests.
Well no - dampness one should dry. Sure they did not needle a point on
the inside of your calf, near the knee? Or one on the inside of the
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Re: Possibly Naive Question
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Theresa Partington wrote:
You were right.
Which would be a counter-indication *as far as the theory* is
concerned.
I
Well, my comments were just concerning the point that had started it -
that the theory of TCM is based on allopathy in the sense of allo =
other or even more pronounced on not only other but opposite.
Regards
Luise
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You were right.
Which would be a counter-indication *as far as the theory* is
concerned.
I
Well, my comments were just concerning the point that had started it -
that the theory of TCM is based on allopathy in the sense of allo =
other or even more pronounced on not only other but opposite.
Regards
Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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