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Re: Possible Lyme's?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:00 pm
by Joy Lucas
In a soon to be chronic case, yes but the stronger of the diseased states will always come to fore, i.e. trauma, acute, injury or allow for a better developed chronic to supercede
You suspect Lyme disease - I don't know how reliable any tests are for this but that would be a first port of call if the tests are worth doing, i.e. reliable - not that any result would change sx but it is always worth knowing what you could be dealing with. Also if it wasn't a tick bite or there is no impression of Lyme's then is there a need to prescribe. In other words if the threat of Lyme's was not there would you actually think of prescribing further. I am not belittling his sx but you do need to ascertain whether these new sx pertain to this ongoing case you refer to or they belong to the insect bite. This needs to be decided because one scenario probably = quite a number of sx (don't know the case but you have implied this), i.e. chronic or you take the sx you have that pertain to the bite, few as they are, as an acute. What needs to be cured is the first question. Sometimes so few sx really make the job easier, less work :-)

You have prescribed so that also needs to be put into context, what did the rx do if anything, is there still reaction from the remedy, if so what and is it >> or eating)
Extended Left to right? I believe the big toe on the right foot is also numb (check which came first as this could be important) - Lachesis? with the extra cheeriness/chattiness maybe - can't rule out Apis either with that extra energy he seems to have. but Apis more right to left - important to know

Check with the arm sx, although now passed there might be something useful there - Agaricus for example has diagonal direction so if you have bite left knee, numb/can't move right arm I'd reckon you have a wonderful SRP sx there.

Find a way of asking about the change in nature, the subtle cheeriness and increased in appetite - check whether they are useful sx or not and if still not sure then play around with them - rep them in and rep without them.

Modalities are probably there somewhere - such as > walking, lying, bathing, hot application, cold application, touch, rubbing etc - sometimes you have to give in to asking direct questions

Then you have the actual eruption from the bite - urticaria like etc, get a better description.

This is what I would do anyway.

Teachers of homeopathy often say begin taking the case of friends and family - I think they are the hardest of all.

Joy

Re: Possible Lyme's?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:46 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi Shannon,
I don't quite understand.

If he had had a tick bite, wouldn't he know. All the ticks I have
known have not committed "hit and run" - they were still fast to the
skin and had to be screwed out.

Isn't that always the case?

Regards

Luise
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So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Possible Lyme's?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:21 am
by Shannon Nelson
On Jun 29, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
Only if you see them before they've finished the meal and dropped off.
Presumably that's why for many Lyme's patients, it's only the bullseye
rash or the *symptoms* that let them know they got bitten. His bite
(whatever it was) happened during a week-long camping trip, and it's
very easy to imagine that he wouldn't have noticed.

So I'm not *certain* there was a tick involved, but I don't know what
else would have made a rash like that--and since I stupidly put the
pitch on it and drove the rash away, I don't know whether it would have
been a spreading target shape or not.

Shannon

Re: Possible Lyme's?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:39 pm
by jill1313
I have lyme and it is terrible and awful--and related I'm sure to the interstitial cystitis flareup I've just mentioned.
I should say though that I wonder why classical homeopaths (or some anyway) are afraid to treat it past the very new acute stage. Either homeopathy works or it doesn't. I'm speculating that because clinical bad lyme is actually always several-as many as six or more--infections all transmitted by the tick including worms, protozoa, spirochetes, and other bacteria--perhaps the picture is very confusing. You wouldn't really know which bug was the gatekeeper in your individual case to bring you down and let the others flourish. IE in some folks perhaps its the lyme that does them in and to which they were vulnerable constitutionally and then the other bacteria transmitted also flourish making things really bad; and/or in others it may be fori nstance the babesia (a malaria like organism) that was the really bad bug for them constitutionally and then the lyme and others could flourish etc. Its a terribly confusing awful disease because one little tickbite transmits so many bad bugs and in allopathic medicine you have to treat them with really tough medicines in high doses for long periods of time--not just antibiotics, but antimalarials and antiprotozoals etc--and you can't do all that at once.

There has to be a better way so that homeopathy can have more success with it because many of us are simply not able to tolerate so many months and years of so many toxic antimicrobials.

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Re: Possible Lyme's?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:04 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Jill,
Some treat Lyme very successfully!
That shouldn't matter; symptom picture plus patient history should be
the guide.
I say this as someone who has never treated advanced Lyme, so there may
well be issues that I'm not aware of. If the patient is *very* weak
and very ill, homeopathic treatment can be much more difficult, because
the possibility of aggravations becomes both more likely, and also more
potentially serious. And there may be other issues; I won't try to
speculate.
Have you tried to search out a homeopath in your area who feels up to
the task? It might be worth trying again...!
Shannon